| Author | Message | | Guest | | Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 4:21 am Post subject: |
| | Anonymous wrote: | Xdangerousdna is not an Arab and neither am I.. But you appear to be a JEW from Haifa... Considering how Israel has lied by calling the intentional and brutal attack on the USS Liberty a "mistake", no Israeli can be trusted:
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Interesting claim by a bigot who can't prove xdangerous isn't an Arab ...
Too bad for your opinion it's not only the Israelis (or JEWS in your lingo) who understand the 1967 attack was indeed a mistake.
CNN: Israel's 1967 attack on U.S. Liberty deliberate
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Nope, CNN was only reporting on the [discredited] claims from the Bamford book.
http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/alert/bamford.html |
Another Zionist Jew who is truth distorting (even using propaganda from the pro-Israel and truth distorting http://www.camera.org Web site) about the USS Liberty attack because he/she has more allegiance to covering Israeli treachery agains the USA than to seeking justice for the Americans sailors that Israel deliberately murdered and wounec in the intentional and brutal attack on the USS Liberty.. James Bamford's book is based on recently-released NSA documents and is only discredited by Zionists who do not want the truth getting out to us all:
Body of Secrets
provides new Liberty revelations
http://www.ussliberty.org/margolis.txt
For additional info on the USS Liberty (and not the Zionist propaganda from Web sites like http://www.camera.org), scroll down after accessing the following:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/06/israeli-mossad-connection-to-9-11-marines-beirut-bombi.php | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 5:11 am Post subject: |
| | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | Xdangerousdna is not an Arab and neither am I.. But you appear to be a JEW from Haifa... Considering how Israel has lied by calling the intentional and brutal attack on the USS Liberty a "mistake", no Israeli can be trusted:
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Interesting claim by a bigot who can't prove xdangerous isn't an Arab ...
Too bad for your opinion it's not only the Israelis (or JEWS in your lingo) who understand the 1967 attack was indeed a mistake.
CNN: Israel's 1967 attack on U.S. Liberty deliberate
///////////////////////
Nope, CNN was only reporting on the [discredited] claims from the Bamford book.
http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/alert/bamford.html |
Another Zionist Jew who is truth distorting (even using propaganda from the pro-Israel and truth distorting http://www.camera.org Web site) about the USS Liberty attack because he/she has more allegiance to covering Israeli treachery agains the USA than to seeking justice for the Americans sailors that Israel deliberately murdered and wounec in the intentional and brutal attack on the USS Liberty.. James Bamford's book is based on recently-released NSA documents and is only discredited by Zionists who do not want the truth getting out to us all:
Body of Secrets
provides new Liberty revelations
http://www.ussliberty.org/margolis.txt
For additional info on the USS Liberty (and not the Zionist propaganda from Web sites like http://www.camera.org), scroll down after accessing the following:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/06/israeli-mossad-connection-to-9-11-marines-beirut-bombi.php |
Notice there is no actual defense of what Bamford wrote. No examples of what is inaccurate from the camera site regarding what Bamford wrote. So typical.
No challenge either to what CNN did in fact report.
But then to mention another discredited writer, Margolis, in a desperate attempt to fool people. Morgolis, who wrote:
| Quote: | | At 0800 hrs, 8 June, 1967, eight Israeli recon flights flew over Liberty, which was flying a large American flag. |
When in fact Liberty was not flying anything close to a "large American flag" nor were there anything close to "eight recon flights" at 0800 hours.
Or this bit of historical inaccuracy:
| Quote: | | Why try to sink a vessel of a benefactor and ally? Most likely because Liberty's intercepts contradicted Israel's claim, made at the war's start on June 5, that Egypt had attacked Israel, and that Israel's air assault on three Arab nations was in retaliation. |
When Liberty wasn't even in the area on June 5, but somewhere, far to the west - like near Sicily. You really want folks to think Morgolis knows what he's talking about? Or you for that matter?
Well ok forum bigot, you don't like the camera site. Try this site for further information on the multiple problems Bamford has.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/secrecy/2001/07/071701.html
Look at this remark from Bamford:
| Quote: | | In response to a number of reviews pointing out defects in his argument that the Israeli attack was deliberate, Mr. Bamford has lately taken a somewhat defensive posture. "It's not my job to provide definitive proof," he said at a recent book-signing. "I didn't have the time or the money to look into all of the details." |
He doesn't have the time or money to look into all the details!! So why should anything he write be taken at face value - especially when his own sources don't support him and double checking of other sources used demonstrate his inaccuracies? | | | | *Mutt American | | Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 6:27 am Post subject: |
| If we can't support anybody who has ever attacked us, I guess the EU is doomed, isn't it? And NATO?
And I guess the US should have stayed out of Europe in WWI & WWII.
How's that schnitzle, Neville? | | | | Guest | | Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 6:36 am Post subject: |
| | *Mutt American wrote: | If we can't support anybody who has ever attacked us, I guess the EU is doomed, isn't it? And NATO?
And I guess the US should have stayed out of Europe in WWI & WWII.
How's that schnitzle, Neville? |
it's because the "jooos" did it. | | | | *Mutt American | | Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 8:15 pm Post subject: Inspector says Saddam has WMD |
| Friday Dec. 6, 2002; 11:05 a.m. EST
Saddam Has Nukes, Ex-Weapons Inspector Says
A former U.N. weapons inspector who was renowned for his ability to ferret out Iraqi weapons violations during the late 1990's charged point blank on Thursday that Saddam Hussein now has nuclear weapons.
"I have no doubt that he has nukes," Bill Tierney told nationally syndicated radio host Sean Hannity.
"He's going to use non-persistent chemicals against his own people to put down an insurrection," the ace inspector predicted, before adding chillingly, "He'll use bio and nukes against us."
Stunned by the revelation, the radio host pressed for confirmation:
HANNITY: You have no doubt that he has nukes? Or he's close (to getting them)?
TIERNEY: I have no doubt that he has nukes.
HANNITY: You think he has nuclear weapons.
TIERNEY: Yes.
HANNITY: Why are you the only (former weapons inspector) saying that?
TIERNEY: Well, there's a few more. One reason why is, during the 90's in the intelligence community, there was just a pathological risk aversion. The reason being was that our president at the time, Bill Clinton, fundamentally changed the purpose of the United States military from fighting and winning wars to crisis management and keeping his poll numbers up.
Now, if you're not out to win, there's no need to take risks. And so what you found is people being very guarded about everything, every kind of assessment you could make. (End of Excerpt)
Before he ran afoul of the system Tierney had built a powerful reputation for credibility, prompting the U.N. to personally recruit him in 1996 for the task of inspecting some of Saddam's most sensitive suspected weapons facilities.
But he was forced to resign two years later amidst charges he was spying for the U.S. Tierney now says he was locked out for doing what he figured was his job - giving the Pentagon targets for military action.
"What I did was identified those people who have sold their souls to keep Saddam in power. I made it my goal to find every place where they are," Tierney told the London's Daily Mirror in October.
Still, his aggressive pursuit of Saddam's weapons violations won him more than a few fans at U.S. Central Command, where Tierney's boss, Army Brig. Gen. Keith Alexander, wrote in one of his job evaluations: "His ability to consistently seek and identify priority target intelligence information is uncanny and is the characteristic that separates him from his contemporaries."
Tierney told Hannity that a 1997 inspection he attempted to conduct at Saddam's Jabal Makhul presidential palace lead him to suspect that the Iraqi dictator already had the bomb.
"Certain things convinced me that they had proscribed items at this presidential site. That led to the inspection in September 1997 where we were locked out. There was something about that. The just came up and said, 'There will be no inspection. Good Day.' And they walked off."
Tierney said the rebuff was "completely different" from other inspections of sensitive sites, where some sort of compromise was always worked out.
Another sign of sinister activity: As Tierney and his team were being turned away, a U.N. helicopter attempting to overfly Jabal Makhul nearly crashed when an Iraqi official on board lunged at the controls.
"That was a distraction to keep that helicopter from going over to the other side of the mountain to see what they were doing" at the facility, said Tierney.
He described Jabal Makhul as a "gigantic" complex of warehouses and underground tunnels, before noting that last year the London Times reported Saddam was storing nuclear weapons in bunkers in and around the Hamrin Mountains.
"There is only one heavily guarded place in the Hamrin Mountains," Tierney told Hannity. "And that's where we were, Jabal Makhul."
Still, despite efforts by Iraqi officials to keep inspectors away from Jabal Makhul, U.N. officials continued to give Saddam the benefit of the doubt, he complained.
"If you had ambiguous reporting; it could mean he has the nukes, it could mean that he doesn't." he said. "Normally the call would be, 'Oh well, that doesn't confirm so therefore he's still developing. He doesn't have it,'" Tierney said he was told.
The ex-inspector predicted that Saddam would likely use his nukes, "maybe (in) Israel, maybe here."
Calling the current inspections "a complete total waste of time," Tierney warned, "You have a leader of a country who's bent on stealing, killing and destroying. And it is time to resolve the issue and solve it. Crisis management is over."
"There's way too much at stake," he added. "We could lose millions more of our citizens unless we wake up and take care of this." | | | | Guest | | Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 10:51 pm Post subject: |
| | Quote: | Friday Dec. 6, 2002; 11:05 a.m. EST
Saddam Has Nukes, Ex-Weapons Inspector Says |
such news is not welcomed here. only the reported opinion of scott ritter is acceptable here. | | | | *Mutt American | | Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 11:19 pm Post subject: |
| | Anonymous wrote: | | Quote: | Friday Dec. 6, 2002; 11:05 a.m. EST
Saddam Has Nukes, Ex-Weapons Inspector Says |
such news is not welcomed here. only the reported opinion of scott ritter is acceptable here. |
But I don't have as much money as the Arabs to pay him for an opinion. | | | | Guest | | Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 11:24 pm Post subject: |
| | *Mutt American wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Quote: | Friday Dec. 6, 2002; 11:05 a.m. EST
Saddam Has Nukes, Ex-Weapons Inspector Says |
such news is not welcomed here. only the reported opinion of scott ritter is acceptable here. |
But I don't have as much money as the Arabs to pay him for an opinion. |
you mean not only was ritter a spy for israel, but he's also getting arab money? boy, that's some feat. how does one get to do both? | | | | Guest | | Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 8:20 am Post subject: |
| | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | Xdangerousdna is not an Arab and neither am I.. But you appear to be a JEW from Haifa... Considering how Israel has lied by calling the intentional and brutal attack on the USS Liberty a "mistake", no Israeli can be trusted:
//////////////////////////
Interesting claim by a bigot who can't prove xdangerous isn't an Arab ...
Too bad for your opinion it's not only the Israelis (or JEWS in your lingo) who understand the 1967 attack was indeed a mistake.
CNN: Israel's 1967 attack on U.S. Liberty deliberate
///////////////////////
Nope, CNN was only reporting on the [discredited] claims from the Bamford book.
http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/alert/bamford.html |
Another Zionist Jew who is truth distorting (even using propaganda from the pro-Israel and truth distorting http://www.camera.org Web site) about the USS Liberty attack because he/she has more allegiance to covering Israeli treachery agains the USA than to seeking justice for the Americans sailors that Israel deliberately murdered and wounec in the intentional and brutal attack on the USS Liberty.. James Bamford's book is based on recently-released NSA documents and is only discredited by Zionists who do not want the truth getting out to us all:
Body of Secrets
provides new Liberty revelations
http://www.ussliberty.org/margolis.txt
For additional info on the USS Liberty (and not the Zionist propaganda from Web sites like http://www.camera.org), scroll down after accessing the following:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/06/israeli-mossad-connection-to-9-11-marines-beirut-bombi.php |
Notice there is no actual defense of what Bamford wrote. No examples of what is inaccurate from the camera site regarding what Bamford wrote. So typical.
No challenge either to what CNN did in fact report.
But then to mention another discredited writer, Margolis, in a desperate attempt to fool people. Morgolis, who wrote:
| Quote: | | At 0800 hrs, 8 June, 1967, eight Israeli recon flights flew over Liberty, which was flying a large American flag. |
When in fact Liberty was not flying anything close to a "large American flag" nor were there anything close to "eight recon flights" at 0800 hours.
Or this bit of historical inaccuracy:
| Quote: | | Why try to sink a vessel of a benefactor and ally? Most likely because Liberty's intercepts contradicted Israel's claim, made at the war's start on June 5, that Egypt had attacked Israel, and that Israel's air assault on three Arab nations was in retaliation. |
When Liberty wasn't even in the area on June 5, but somewhere, far to the west - like near Sicily. You really want folks to think Morgolis knows what he's talking about? Or you for that matter?
Well ok forum bigot, you don't like the camera site. Try this site for further information on the multiple problems Bamford has.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/secrecy/2001/07/071701.html
Look at this remark from Bamford:
| Quote: | | In response to a number of reviews pointing out defects in his argument that the Israeli attack was deliberate, Mr. Bamford has lately taken a somewhat defensive posture. "It's not my job to provide definitive proof," he said at a recent book-signing. "I didn't have the time or the money to look into all of the details." |
He doesn't have the time or money to look into all the details!! So why should anything he write be taken at face value - especially when his own sources don't support him and double checking of other sources used demonstrate his inaccuracies? |
Life Of An American Jew In Racist-Marxist Israel (the intentional and brutal Israeli attack on the USS Liberty is mentioned by Jack Bernstein who was an American Jew and experienced Israeli racism firsthand):
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/11/19/life-of-an-american-jew-in-racist-marxist-israel.php
For the truth on the USS Liberty attack (and not the Zionist truth distortion), access the following as well (as I believe the actual Liberty survivors who run this site, and I definitely do not believe the Zionist truth distorters that are being paid by Israel in their futile attempts to cover Israeli treachery and discredit patriotic Americans in the process):
http://www.ussliberty.org | | | | Guest | | Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Inspector says Saddam has WMD |
| | *Mutt American wrote: | Friday Dec. 6, 2002; 11:05 a.m. EST
Saddam Has Nukes, Ex-Weapons Inspector Says
A former U.N. weapons inspector who was renowned for his ability to ferret out Iraqi weapons violations during the late 1990's charged point blank on Thursday that Saddam Hussein now has nuclear weapons.
"I have no doubt that he has nukes," Bill Tierney told nationally syndicated radio host Sean Hannity.
"He's going to use non-persistent chemicals against his own people to put down an insurrection," the ace inspector predicted, before adding chillingly, "He'll use bio and nukes against us."
Stunned by the revelation, the radio host pressed for confirmation:
HANNITY: You have no doubt that he has nukes? Or he's close (to getting them)?
TIERNEY: I have no doubt that he has nukes.
HANNITY: You think he has nuclear weapons.
TIERNEY: Yes.
HANNITY: Why are you the only (former weapons inspector) saying that?
TIERNEY: Well, there's a few more. One reason why is, during the 90's in the intelligence community, there was just a pathological risk aversion. The reason being was that our president at the time, Bill Clinton, fundamentally changed the purpose of the United States military from fighting and winning wars to crisis management and keeping his poll numbers up.
Now, if you're not out to win, there's no need to take risks. And so what you found is people being very guarded about everything, every kind of assessment you could make. (End of Excerpt)
Before he ran afoul of the system Tierney had built a powerful reputation for credibility, prompting the U.N. to personally recruit him in 1996 for the task of inspecting some of Saddam's most sensitive suspected weapons facilities.
But he was forced to resign two years later amidst charges he was spying for the U.S. Tierney now says he was locked out for doing what he figured was his job - giving the Pentagon targets for military action.
"What I did was identified those people who have sold their souls to keep Saddam in power. I made it my goal to find every place where they are," Tierney told the London's Daily Mirror in October.
Still, his aggressive pursuit of Saddam's weapons violations won him more than a few fans at U.S. Central Command, where Tierney's boss, Army Brig. Gen. Keith Alexander, wrote in one of his job evaluations: "His ability to consistently seek and identify priority target intelligence information is uncanny and is the characteristic that separates him from his contemporaries."
Tierney told Hannity that a 1997 inspection he attempted to conduct at Saddam's Jabal Makhul presidential palace lead him to suspect that the Iraqi dictator already had the bomb.
"Certain things convinced me that they had proscribed items at this presidential site. That led to the inspection in September 1997 where we were locked out. There was something about that. The just came up and said, 'There will be no inspection. Good Day.' And they walked off."
Tierney said the rebuff was "completely different" from other inspections of sensitive sites, where some sort of compromise was always worked out.
Another sign of sinister activity: As Tierney and his team were being turned away, a U.N. helicopter attempting to overfly Jabal Makhul nearly crashed when an Iraqi official on board lunged at the controls.
"That was a distraction to keep that helicopter from going over to the other side of the mountain to see what they were doing" at the facility, said Tierney.
He described Jabal Makhul as a "gigantic" complex of warehouses and underground tunnels, before noting that last year the London Times reported Saddam was storing nuclear weapons in bunkers in and around the Hamrin Mountains.
"There is only one heavily guarded place in the Hamrin Mountains," Tierney told Hannity. "And that's where we were, Jabal Makhul."
Still, despite efforts by Iraqi officials to keep inspectors away from Jabal Makhul, U.N. officials continued to give Saddam the benefit of the doubt, he complained.
"If you had ambiguous reporting; it could mean he has the nukes, it could mean that he doesn't." he said. "Normally the call would be, 'Oh well, that doesn't confirm so therefore he's still developing. He doesn't have it,'" Tierney said he was told.
The ex-inspector predicted that Saddam would likely use his nukes, "maybe (in) Israel, maybe here."
Calling the current inspections "a complete total waste of time," Tierney warned, "You have a leader of a country who's bent on stealing, killing and destroying. And it is time to resolve the issue and solve it. Crisis management is over."
"There's way too much at stake," he added. "We could lose millions more of our citizens unless we wake up and take care of this." |
And we are supposed to believe a Zionist Jew like Tierney... Yea, right.. and on the "Voice of Israel" channel (Fox News Channel) as Sharon's good friend is the Fox News Channel's bureau chief in Israel, and we all know how Sharon wants to enact his "final solution" of ethnic cleansing the Palestinians into Jordan when the invasion of Iraq gets underway... | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
