| Author | Message | | theedge | | Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 9:10 pm Post subject: Israel's war |
| This proposed war on Iraq will only benefit Israel. Why should America fight Israel's war? Let Israel fight Iraq. Let the Israeli army suffer the casualties. Why should the Americans send their children off to fight somebody elses war? Iraq poses no threat to the U.S. Even if they had WMD, they don't have the means to launch the weapons against the U.S. They can strike at Israel of course. So Iraq only poses a threat to Israel. Why should America stick it's neck out for Israel?  | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 9:13 pm Post subject: Pinocchio |
| | Quote: | | This proposed war on Iraq will only benefit Israel. Why should America fight Israel's war? Let Israel fight Iraq. Let the Israeli army suffer the casualties. Why should the Americans send their children off to fight somebody elses war? Iraq poses no threat to the U.S. Even if they had WMD, they don't have the means to launch the weapons against the U.S. They can strike at Israel of course. So Iraq only poses a threat to Israel. Why should America stick it's neck out for Israel? | It's very likely because Israel uses it's own nuclear weapons as a very effective tool to get it's powerful friend to do it's own dirty work.  | |  | | Guest | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2002 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Richard "Estelle" Perle |
| | LeFrenchman wrote: | | Namby-pamby Semites gone wild like Estelle Perle, are considered freaks on the Continent. How is it that so resolutely an anti-American, one whose very nickname "The Prince of Darkness" describes his Anti-Christ fantasies is permitted to serve in government. A former lobbyist for Hollinger, the Israeli arms manufacturer, is a neurotic (Jew) traitor to all of America. And, yet, there he sits, speaks, threatens, connives... | I know what you mean.. Incredible, isn't it... How this Zionist (JINSA) element has been allowed to take over the Executive Branch of the US government is absolutely unacceptable.. What is the best way to make as many Americans as possible aware though? Bush to flow BILLIONS more US taxpayer dollars to Israel (as such contributes to increase the risk of US experiencing further domestic terror): http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/16/bush-favors-special-aid-to-israel.php | |  | | Guest | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 9:19 am Post subject: |
| The Spam Sketch from the second series of "Monty Python's Flying Circus" and "Monty Python's Previous Record" (Spam = Spiced Pork And Ham, a sort of cheap luncheon meat) Scene: A cafe. One table is occupied by a group of Vikings with horned helmets on. A man and his wife enter. Man (Eric Idle): You sit here, dear. Wife (Graham Chapman in drag): All right. Man (to Waitress): Morning! Waitress (Terry Jones, in drag as a bit of a rat-bag): Morning! Man: Well, what've you got? Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam; Vikings (starting to chant): Spam spam spam spam... Waitress: ...spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam... Vikings (singing): Spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Waitress: ...or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam. Wife: Have you got anything without spam? Waitress: Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it. Wife: I don't want ANY spam! Man: Why can't she have egg bacon spam and sausage? Wife: THAT'S got spam in it! Man: Hasn't got as much spam in it as spam egg sausage and spam, has it? Vikings: Spam spam spam spam (crescendo through next few lines) Wife: Could you do the egg bacon spam and sausage without the spam then? Waitress: Urgghh! Wife: What do you mean 'Urgghh'? I don't like spam! Vikings: Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!) Waitress: Shut up! Vikings: Lovely spam! Wonderful spam! Waitress: Shut up! (Vikings stop) Bloody Vikings! You can't have egg bacon spam and sausage without the spam. Wife (shrieks): I don't like spam! Man: Sshh, dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your spam. I love it. I'm having spam spam spam spam spam spam spam beaked beans spam spam spam and spam! Vikings (singing): Spam spam spam spam. Lovely spam! Wonderful spam! Waitress: Shut up!! Baked beans are off. Man: Well could I have her spam instead of the baked beans then? Waitress: You mean spam spam spam spam spam spam... (but it is too late and the Vikings drown her words) Vikings (singing elaborately): Spam spam spam spam. Lovely spam! Wonderful spam! Spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam. Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Spam spam spam spam! | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Israel's war |
| | theedge wrote: | This proposed war on Iraq will only benefit Israel. Why should America fight Israel's war? Let Israel fight Iraq. Let the Israeli army suffer the casualties. Why should the Americans send their children off to fight somebody elses war? Iraq poses no threat to the U.S. Even if they had WMD, they don't have the means to launch the weapons against the U.S. They can strike at Israel of course. So Iraq only poses a threat to Israel. Why should America stick it's neck out for Israel?  | Israelis Want IRAQ WAR: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/16/israelis-want-iraq-war.php | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 11:46 am Post subject: PUT UP OR SHUT UP |
| DEC. 16, 2002 (COL. 3) PUT UP OR SHUT UP BY CHARLEY REESE President George Bush has to put up or shut up. If his administration has hard evidence that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, he has to put that evidence on the table for everyone to see. Otherwise his credibility and the credibility of the United States will be zilch. It's beginning to appear that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein isn't as stupid as the Bush administration believed him to be. He has readmitted the inspectors, he's cooperating with them, and he's made his declaration: We have no weapons of mass destruction; if the United States and Great Britain have evidence to the contrary, give it to the international inspectors. So far, the Bush administration has done nothing but indulge in name-calling, like some bratty kid on a schoolyard. It's not enough to keep calling Saddam a liar; it's time to prove it. And if the United States lacks proof, as I personally believe, then it's time to shut up or else confess the real motives for wanting to go to war. So far, the Bush administration's credibility hasn't been that great itself. Item: It made much to-do about Iraq having drone airplanes. The existence of these planes was made public in 1998. The president even said they could be used in an attack against the United States, which is patently absurd on its face. Item: Great Britain recently released a dossier on human-rights violations in Iraq. Again, it was all old stuff, 10 or 12 years old, and Amnesty International, which had collected the information in the first place, severely criticized the British government for misusing a report that the United Kingdom had ignored a decade ago when it was first issued. Demonization and name-calling do not constitute evidence that Iraq is a threat to the United States. The Bush administration has no hard evidence that Iraq was involved with al-Qaida or any other kind of international terrorism. It has twisted the truth about Iraq's involvement with the Palestinians, implying that Saddam subsidized suicide bombers. The fact is that Saddam was giving a check to the families of any Palestinian killed in the intifada. That, of course, included the families of suicide bombers, but the program was not specifically directed toward them. Don't forget, the Israelis have killed nearly 2,000 Palestinians, most of them civilians. Unlike most Arab governments that only pay lip service to the Palestinian struggle for independence, Saddam has put his money where his mouth is. If it is true, as Richard Pearle, the chief warmonger in the Bush administration, has said publicly, that Bush will go to war against Iraq even if there are no ties to terrorism and no weapons of mass destruction, the American people had better start raising hell with the administration. A war without justification can produce catastrophic consequences. For one thing, with our economy in the shape it is in, much better use for $200 billion can be found right here at home than to waste it on killing Iraqis. For another, the days when we can inflict death and destruction on other people in other places without paying a price for it are over. Making war against Iraq without justification and international support will produce an enormous increase in terrorism directed at the United States and at Americans everywhere. For still another, it will alienate allies all over the world. If genuine, publicly exposed proof can be found that Iraq is in violation and if the United States goes back to the United Nations Security Council for a second resolution, then all's well and good. If the president decides to go it alone based on propaganda, he will be making the mistake of his life. The trouble is it will be other innocent lives, both Iraqi and American, that will pay for his blunder. (Write to Charley Reese at P.O. Box 2446, Orlando, FL 32802) | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 4:25 am Post subject: 'DON'T DIE FOR ISRAEL' |
| > A Review by Dr. Susan Huck of "ONE NATION UNDER ISRAEL," by Andrew > Hurley > > Editor comments: Thank you Dr. Susan Huck. > > The following powerful one-page review of ONE NATION UNDER ISRAEL by > career journalist and book author Dr. Susan Huck is the most incisive > review yet. It again reminds your Editor that this book was Andrew > Hurley's life literary work, resulting from 20 years of careful data > collection and writing. > > Hurley chose, because of the nature of his business relationships, to > wait until his retirement to publish ONE NATION UNDER ISRAEL. Each > paragraph and every word was mulled over time and time again before > it was finally printed. Only the clearest facts and conclusions > survived. The result was this impeccable book. > > It was my honor to know Jim Hurley before his death last year, and to > hear of the many antidotes he did not include, and some he could not > include. Andrew J. Hurley (Jim) lived an abundant and adventurous > life that would seem enviable to most of us. However It is my belief > that he will someday be remembered, not for his business successes, > but for this, his one and only book. > > ONE NATION UNDER ISRAEL is the one book we know of that has yet to be > seriously challenged on any material fact, and nary a detail has been > upended since WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS published it as our first book. > Hurley wrote ONUI believing that millions of live were at risk, and > that he could make a difference. > > Thanks to Jim Hurley; we will do our best to help the world remember > and honor him - Editor. > > DON'T DIE FOR ISRAEL > > A Review by Dr. Susan Huck of ONE NATION UNDER ISRAEL, by Andrew > Hurley > > The original title of this 1990 book, "Holocaust II? Saving > Israel from Suicide", perhaps more accurately reflected the author's > concern that aggressive Israeli policies might ultimately lead to > disaster for Israel. However, the current title very accurately > reflects the current American, as distinct from the Israeli problem. > It details, as truthfully as any source I have seen, the manner in > which Uncle Sam is converted into Uncle Schlemiel, Israel's 900-pound > gorilla. > > The theme of suicidal Jewish zealotry is outlined in Hurley's > first chapter, which draws upon A History of the Jews, by Dr. Abram > Sachar, once president of Brandeis University. Far from the tale of > continual undeserved victimhood constantly served to the public, > Sachar demonstrates how, from a thousand years before the birth of > Christ, Jewish tribes and states kept getting into needless > difficulties with both friend and foe. > > Ah, but such a perspective does not serve current > purposes. "We" non-Jews must be kept guilt-ridden and "obliged" to > grovel, pay, and otherwise sacrifice ourselves for Jews. An Anti- > Defamation League catalogue of "educational" material emphasizes the > theme of victimhood and martyrdom at the hands of Christians, as in > The Longest Hatred -- "from the Cross to the Swastika." The ADL's > concept of a "good Christian" is one who sacrifices himself for the > Jews. It is sad to see the American armed forces being set up to > serve as "good Christians" for Israel. > > Hurley's book was originally published in 1990, before "Gulf > War I," the Bush 41 war. The re-titled but not revised edition was > published in 1999, apparently missing by just a few years "Gulf War > II," or the Bush 43 war scheduled for 2003. Nothing, it seems, will > deter President George Bush from initiating the all-out war on Iraq > being pressed by a Jewish cabal within his administration. Jewish > enthusiasts look forward to it as the beginning of "World War IV" to > forcibly "re-educate" all Moslems everywhere, beginning with Israel's > closest foes. > > As the preface to ONE NATION UNDER ISRAEL explains, lawyer > and historian Andrew Hurley does much more than examine Jewish > history. He explains -- at length and with "documentation," the > methods by which the Jewish lobby in the United States controls "our" > federal government. The carrot is money, the stick is public > smearing, followed if necessary by deprivation of livelihood. > > American and Israeli Jews collaborate seamlessly to bulldoze > Congress and the entire executive branch into sending an > uninterrupted stream of money, military hardware, and whatever else > is wanted to Israel. Congressman Larry McDonald, who was on the > research and development subcommittee of the House Armed Services > Committee, once told me that "we wouldn't even have an R & D program > if Israel didn't want us to," because the fruits of taxpayer-funded R > & D, he knew, were funneled straight to Israel. > > The Israelis then feel free to market it, by the way. Hurley > explains this in great detail. No cabinet member, not to mention mere > bureaucrat, can stand in the way of this continual transfer of > wealth, because the Jews can "go over the head" of anyone of any > rank. > > Hurley, writing in 1990, could not have known that George > Bush's father, Bush 41, would "learn" that he lost his 1992 re- > election campaign because he merely delayed a "loan guarantee" to > Israel. (That is, he delayed guaranteeing that if Israel > defaulted, "our" government would pay. In any event, our annual multi- > billion dollar gifts to Israel easily cover Israel's debts.) Young > Bush 43 has been keenly monitored ever since he loomed on the horizon > as a candidate. The ADL boasts of this. > > In short, Hurley's book is a manual of "how they do it," > filled with examples as of 1990. In 2003, "how they do it" has simply > become more blatant, as Jewish "neocons" -- so-called neo- > conservatives -- pack the administration with armchair warhawks and > are apparently capable of employing the American armed forces as > their own. > > By employing mere name-calling as a first-line weapon, the > goyim are reduced to jellyfish. Why does anyone respond to > accusations of "anti-Semitism" with other than a patient smile and > the comment, "That won't work, either"? > > If the silly goyim ever wake up and do that, the United > States might cease to be ONE NATION UNDER ISRAEL. -end > > (Reviewer, Dr. Susan Huck's latest book "WHY DO WE AMERICAN SUBMIT TO > THIS" By Newcomb Publisher's Inc., is now available from We Hold > These Truths, $20.00) > > To Buy ONE NATION UNDER ISRAEL, 345 page soft cover, $17.50; 2 for > $35.00; 10 for $128.00. (http://www.whtt.org/bookstor.htm) > > We Hold These Truths > P.O. 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| | theedge wrote: | This proposed war on Iraq will only benefit Israel. Why should America fight Israel's war? Let Israel fight Iraq. Let the Israeli army suffer the casualties. Why should the Americans send their children off to fight somebody elses war? Iraq poses no threat to the U.S. Even if they had WMD, they don't have the means to launch the weapons against the U.S. They can strike at Israel of course. So Iraq only poses a threat to Israel. Why should America stick it's neck out for Israel?  | NO AMERICAN and BRIT SOLDIER/MARINE SHOULD HAVE TO DIE FOR ISRAEL... HELL WITH ISRAEL.. | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |