| Author | Message | | Guest | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 10:01 pm Post subject: Cut off ALL monetary & military aid to Israel |
| Subj: FW: A Must Read Email for Any Patriotic American with More Allegiance to the USA:
This guy needs his head examined. What the US government needs
to do is cut off ALL monetary & military aid to Israel, spend the
money right here in our own country -- where it belongs -- and
feed/clothe/house properly the 'Native Americans' all over our
country and the starving populace in Appalachia and other parts
of this nation and create some jobs for all of our out of work
brethren to do. The government needs to wipe out Osama and
the rest of his goons, disarm Saddam (not to mention his brother
Gaddafi in Libya) and then take away the Israeli nukes and tell
all of them that if they don't start behaving we'll make 'em into a
parking lot.
Have a Great Day and a Happy Thanksgiving!!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/22/02 2:47:07 PM
Subject: A Must Read Email for Any Patriotic American with More Allegiance to the USA
Look at the words included below from DRSO905@aol.com who is a Zionist extremist.. It is a concerning situation especially after you access the following URL (notice the mention of Feith bringing the head of AIPAC into the Bush administration with the JINSA War Hawks at the Pentagon and how Wolf Blitzer of CNN used to be the Washington correspondent for the Jerusalem Post which Richard Perle has been associated with as well, and you don't think there is something going on with the US government and media that works to promote the US Government's Zionist (JINSA)-driven agenda?):
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/11/22/turkey-israel-and-the-us-jinsa.php
Subj: Sincerely.
Date: 11/22/02 9:54:42 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: DRSO905
More people suffer and die; 11 Jews killed in suicide bus bombing in Jerusalem yesterday November 21,2002. And yes, now still more people will suffer and die; except now they will be the Arabs who live in our land (the Arabs that some people insist on calling "Palestinians" although there is no "Palestine" on any modern map) who will be reaping the grievous repercussions for this suicide bomber's fateful decision to take innocent Jews with him when he took his own life yesterday morning. Bethlehem is already under siege; the IDF is going for house-to-house. Any Arab who dies in the next few days (or weeks) in retaliation for this unspeakable Arab atrocity, their survivors will have no one to blame for it but this suicide bomber who struck in Jerusalem yesterday morning. Shalom/ Salaam, nice words, but I think we shall not see shalom/ salaam, not for a very long time.&! nbsp; There can be no coexistence any longer. It is my truest feeling that the stronger must now proceed to finish taking what is rightfully theirs by the iron-clad and unchangeable law of "might makes right". After all, how do you think our very own beloved America, the first country to recognize Eretz Israel only 11 minutes after Israel's birth, was created?? Through that very same principle. The stronger ( i.e., the invading Anglos) took what rightfully became theirs through might and will, and their descendants have since built it up into the mightiest of nations, the mightiest of empires. Cui bono? To whose benefit? To all of the Americans who live there today, that's to whose benefit it was. After all, what would it be had it been left to its native inhabitants?? Talk about a terrific waste of space and resources. It's only too bad the Genoese explorer did not discover the Hispaniolas sooner. All of the people, be they immigrant or native-born American, who live in the US today on land that was once rightfully owned by the country's native inhabitants, enjoying the bountiful economy of a country which was made financially strong during its early years through a brutal program of slavery, are just as guilty as you "anti-Zionists" would accuse any Israeli "settler" of being. America, and all of its current inhabitants whose ancestors went there and got fat there, truly lacks the moral authority to dare pass judgment on the Israelis in their current situation vis a vis these Arabs. Consider, mr. patriot, how your own country was born in the shadow of that genocidal push west that the country's original settlers called their "Manifest Destiny". They might as well have called it the "lebensraum" program. Consider how it was made strong through the use of brutal slave labor. Human chattel was imported into North America! from Africa from 1619 until 1860 (even though it was technically illegal to import slaves from 1808 on.) Consider that, until only relatively recently, your country called all these men whose ancestors had been brought there by force from Africa 3/5ths of a man when it came to considering population for votes in the electoral college. Consider all this, any of you American flag-wavers who would dare attack the state of Israel or wish ill upon it. You all , and your country as a whole I repeat, lack the moral authority to condemn the Jews for "mistreating" these Arabs. Furthermore, "might makes right" is a basic law of nature. It happened to the Jews during WWII, as you have mentioned, and to many of the other persecuted groups during that same period. And why did it happen? Because the Deutsche Wehrmacht had the might to make it happen and there was no one (at least not until the US-British-Soviet alliance got its act together) tha! t could stop them. And there is no one today that can stop the modern-day alliance of the Israeli government and your own American government. So you can investigate things like the USS Liberty "incident" until you are blue in the face; it is all just smoke that you're blowing. It means nothing to anyone who matters. The men in power in America know that the ends justify the means. They are Machiavellian to be sure, as the leaders of any empire have to be if they wish to remain on the top. If tomorrow GWBush decided to give PM Sharon the green light to finish off this Arab problem in a decisive and final manner, then it would be finished, make no mistake about it, and there would be no more suicide bombers in the foreseeable future. And I would not feel the least bit bad about it. And no one would care how you or I felt about it anyway. Rounding the Arabs up in concentration camps would probably be closer to the "American way" than! any diplomacy would any way, would it not?? Isn't that what American hero FDR did to the Japanese, and even to some German and Italian immigrants, during the time of WWII?? So, my advice to you is this: forget about US aid to Israel ending, and the USS Liberty incident, and all of that nonsense, and try rooting for the winning team for once instead of the hopeless underdog; it is far less frustrating you will find, I'm sure.  "Next Year in Jerusalem." ~DRS. | | | | Guest | | Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 10:03 pm Post subject: BUSH AIDE: INSPECTIONS OR NOT, WE'LL ATTACK IRAQ |
| BUSH AIDE: INSPECTIONS OR NOT, WE'LL ATTACK IRAQ
Exclusive By Paul Gilfeather, Daily Mirror, 11/21/02
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12377231&method=full&
siteid=50143
GEORGE Bush's top security adviser last night admitted the US would attack
Iraq even if UN inspectors fail to find weapons.
Dr Richard Perle stunned MPs by insisting a "clean bill of health" from UN
chief weapons inspector Hans Blix would not halt America's war machine.
Evidence from ONE witness on Saddam Hussein's weapons programme will be
enough to trigger a fresh military onslaught, he told an all-party meeting
on global security.
Former defence minister and Labour backbencher Peter Kilfoyle said:
"America is duping the world into believing it supports these inspections.
President Bush intends to go to war even if inspectors find nothing.
"This make a mockery of the whole process and exposes America's real
determination to bomb Iraq…" | | | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 6:55 am Post subject: Why Does Israel Want A U.S. War With Iraq? |
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Why Does Israel Want A U.S. War With Iraq? - By Jaffer Ali
There is no country in the world that yearns for the US to go to
war with Iraq more than Israel. They even pay PR firms to promote
this agenda in the media. What is behind Israel's passion for
having Americans march off to war?
On first blush one might think it is because Iraq poses a threat
to Israeli security. But no military analyst believes that Iraq
could do much in the way of attacking Israel. They do not share
a border with them and Jordan is not likely to allow Iraqi tanks
to cross its border to attack Israel. Iraq does not have an air
force. What missiles they have are generally ineffective and
Israel has all the firepower to repel any attack. As one Israeli
military analyst said, "We don't lose sleep over Iraq's military
threat to us."
If Israel is not worried about Iraq's military capabilities, why
all the PR? The reason is rather simple. Israel pines for a role
in the New World Order. Trying to find a place in the New World
Order is a preoccupation for most countries in the world. Remember,
President GW Bush stated clearly "you are either with us or
against us." This has countries all over the globe trying to find
a way to be "with us."
Israel is not therefore alone in this desire. In the past, it was
easy for it to align with US interests. There is a new global
realignment taking place and Israel is having a hard time finding
a seat at the table. Plainly stated, their interests and the New
World Order are at odds. And this means that Israeli interests
and American interests are diverging. US interests and the New
World Order are interchangeable phrases.
After the collapse of the Soviet Empire, Israel no longer was
needed to be a bastion against Soviet expansion. Its service to
the US has been declining ever since. As the US forged new and
special relationships with Arab countries, Israel lost its
exclusive role of "US ally" in the Middle East. There are many
entities in the region lining up to replace Israel in this regard.
Israel's role in the Middle East was largely to help
stabilize certain regimes that served US economic interests.
To do this, they would make their vast intelligence assets
available to America. But the New World Order has a different
operative plan than the post-WW II US plan that used Israel to
promote its agenda.
The continued Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza has become
a destabilizing factor in the entire Middle East and even larger
Muslim world. Israel is now a liability in the region and truly
disrupts the New World Order. Its continued oppression of the
Palestinian people is a time bomb that can only lead to chaos,
not order.
Why is Israel at odds with the New World Order?
In 1991, when George W. Bush's father ushered in the New World
Order, Israel was the odd country out. There was no place for
it any more. The US coalition in the Gulf War did not need
Israel to accomplish its goals. In fact, Israel was an unwanted
complication to the New World Order. Israel had no role to play.
Equally problematic for Israel is its reliance on the
anachronistic ideology of Zionism. The modern intellectual roots
of Zionism are founded in ethnic nationalism. This formed the
basis of ethnic laws promoted by fascists, Nazis, segregated
countries like South Africa and of course is the basis of Israel
as a nation.
The New World Order is about globalization and internationalism,
not ideologies that confer rights based upon ethno-nationalism.
Israel's raison d'etre is therefore opposed in principle to the
New World Order.
In the New World Order, Israel HAS NO ROLE TO PLAY.
This leads to the answer as to why Israel pays certain American
journalists to call for war... and why they pay PR firms to
promote an agenda that inflames public opinion. Israel NEEDS a
role to play and what they pine for is a recurrent conflict
between the US and Islamic countries. If this can be
accomplished, then Israel can assume a role in the Middle East
as the bastion against Islamic extremism.
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Even though Iraq is not considered an extremist Islamic state,
a war between the US and Iraq will undoubtedly increase the ire
and enmity between the US and Muslim world. This enmity is the
breeding ground of extremism. Israel knows this. Israel is the
beneficiary of this enmity because it can then, AND ONLY THEN,
have a role to serve US interests or its other name, the New
World Order.
Without a role serving the New World Order, Israel is in danger
of becoming irrelevant and cast aside. Most critics of Israel
have historically misunderstood how Israel served US interests
in the past. That is why most Israeli critics miss how Israel
no longer serves those interests.
Israel has understood its historic role and is frantic to find
a way to serve those interests once again. Israelis in-the-know
understand that their existence depends upon US largesse.
Alliances change. Interests always trump alliances.
Oh yes, one other thing. The US promised a $10 billion aid
package to Israel should they go to war with Iraq. No war-no
aid. Just another incentive for Israel to pine for the war.
$10 billion is approximately 10% of its entire GNP.
This is just what the Israeli economy needs because it has
been neglected by its American sponsor. Israelis do not
view their economic woes as benign neglect. They privately
mutter about Washington not bailing their economy out. They
understand full well that without finding a way to ally with
US interests, it may not survive as presently constituted. War
between Iraq and the US remains their number one goal.
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Jaffer Ali is a Palestinian-American businessman who writes
on business ethics, management theory and political topics.
*********************************************************** | | | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 9:44 pm Post subject: JINSA ZIONIST WAR HAWK RICHARD PERLE PUSHING IRAQ ATTACK |
| James, please find below full text of the story on Perle... his words are
very interesting.
EXCLUSIVE
By Paul Gilfeather, Whitehall Editor
GEORGE W. Bush's top security adviser admitted last night the US would
blitz Iraq - even if no weapons were found by UN inspectors.
Dr Richard Perle stunned MPs at Westminster by insisting that even a "clean
bill of health" from UN chief weapons inspector Hans Blix could not halt
President Bush's war machine.
And he declared that evidence from just ONE witness claiming to have seen
Saddam Hussein's weapons programme was enough to trigger a fresh military
onslaught.
Last night furious Labour MPs lined up to blast Washington as the news cast
another dark cloud over the tense process.
Former defence minister and Labour backbencher, Peter Kilfoyle, told the
Daily Mirror: "What we have heard from Dr Perle is absolutely astonishing.
"America is duping the world into believing that it supports these
inspections. President Bush intends to go to war even if the inspectors
find nothing.
"This make a mockery of the whole process and exposes America's real
determination to bomb Iraq no matter what the outcome of these inspections
are."
Right-winger Perle dropped his bombshell during an all-party meeting of MPs
on global security.
The Pentagon adviser made clear the White House's total contempt for the
inspection process, which got underway on Monday.
The global community held its breath as inspectors landed in Baghdad,
believing that the results of the search could end in peace.
But last night Dr Perle made clear that nothing the 74-year-old Swede
reports would be enough to satisfy America's lust for war.
Dr Perle said: "I would not say that I don't believe what Hans Blix says.
"But I cannot see how Hans Blix can state more than he can know.
"All he can know is the results of his own investigations. And that does
not prove Saddam does not have weapons of mass destruction."
Tory backbencher Peter Tapsell sought clarification, adding: "If no weapons
of mass destruction are found, what does Dr Perle think the actions of the
United States will be?"
The chairman of America's Defence Policy Board responded: "The
circumstances in which the weapons are not found matters.
"If Hans Blix issues his full authority and is able to invite Iraqis to
safety and they say there are programmes, we will have to take that very
seriously."
Dr Perle repeated that evidence from Iraqis could be enough evidence to
trigger a full-scale attack on Iraq.
"Suppose we are able to find someone who has been involved in the
development of weapons and he says there are stores of nerve agents?," he
added.
"But you cannot find them because they are so well hidden. Do you actually
have to take possession of the nerve agents to convince?
"We are not dealing with a situation where you can expect co-operation."
Mr Kilfoyle said last night that MPs would be horrified to learn that the
"say-so" of an Iraqi witness would be enough to overshadow the inspectors'
work.
He added: "Because Saddam is so hated in Iraq it would be easy to find
someone to say they witnessed weapons building.
"Perle says the American's would be satisfied with such claims even if no
real evidence was produced. That's a terrifying prospect."
ends | | | | Guest | | | | *Mutt American | | Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 6:40 pm Post subject: |
| | Your OTHER cut/paste article says Bush was planning this for years anyway. You really need to figure out which of your trash you want to believe. | | | | Guest | | | | Guest | | | | Guest | | Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 9:20 am Post subject: |
| The Spam Sketch from the second series of "Monty Python's Flying Circus" and
"Monty Python's Previous Record"
(Spam = Spiced Pork And Ham, a sort of cheap luncheon meat)
Scene: A cafe. One table is occupied by a group of Vikings with horned
helmets on. A man and his wife enter.
Man (Eric Idle): You sit here, dear.
Wife (Graham Chapman in drag): All right.
Man (to Waitress): Morning!
Waitress (Terry Jones, in drag as a bit of a rat-bag): Morning!
Man: Well, what've you got?
Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam;
egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage
and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; spam sausage spam spam
bacon spam tomato and spam;
Vikings (starting to chant): Spam spam spam spam...
Waitress: ...spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam baked
beans spam spam spam...
Vikings (singing): Spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam!
Waitress: ...or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a
Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with
truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam.
Wife: Have you got anything without spam?
Waitress: Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in
it.
Wife: I don't want ANY spam!
Man: Why can't she have egg bacon spam and sausage?
Wife: THAT'S got spam in it!
Man: Hasn't got as much spam in it as spam egg sausage and spam, has it?
Vikings: Spam spam spam spam (crescendo through next few lines)
Wife: Could you do the egg bacon spam and sausage without the spam then?
Waitress: Urgghh!
Wife: What do you mean 'Urgghh'? I don't like spam!
Vikings: Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!)
Waitress: Shut up!
Vikings: Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!
Waitress: Shut up! (Vikings stop) Bloody Vikings! You can't have egg bacon
spam and sausage without the spam.
Wife (shrieks): I don't like spam!
Man: Sshh, dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your spam. I love it.
I'm having spam spam spam spam spam spam spam beaked beans spam spam
spam and spam!
Vikings (singing): Spam spam spam spam. Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!
Waitress: Shut up!! Baked beans are off.
Man: Well could I have her spam instead of the baked beans then?
Waitress: You mean spam spam spam spam spam spam... (but it is too late and
the Vikings drown her words)
Vikings (singing elaborately): Spam spam spam spam. Lovely spam! Wonderful
spam! Spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam. Lovely spam!
Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Spam spam
spam spam! | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
