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OCTOBER 14, 2002
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1) Report details US "intelligence failures," says Israel was tracking the
hijackers
2) Next Door to Mohammed Atta: Israeli agents were living in Florida and
tailing the future death pilots – until their cover was blown.
3) 9/11: WHAT DID ISRAEL KNOW? – and when did they tell us?
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1) Report details US 'intelligence failures'
The report says Israel was tracking the hijackers
By Rob Broomby
BBC correspondent in Berlin
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/2294487.stm
The American intelligence agency, the CIA, could have prevented the 11
September attacks if it were not for systematic failures, according to the
German newspaper Die Zeit.
The paper has uncovered details of a major Israeli spy ring involving some
a 120 agents for the intelligence service Mossad operating across America
and some masquerading as arts students.
The ring was reportedly hard on the heels of at least four members of the
hijack gang, including its leader Mohammed Atta.
But the Israeli agents were detected by their American counterparts and
thrown out of the country, it says.
The US authorities said then that they were students whose visas had expired.
Report dismissed
Just a month before the deadly attacks, the paper said, Mossad handed over
to the Americans a detailed report naming several suspects they believe
were preparing an attack on the United States.
But it contained no specific indications as to the objective and it was not
treated seriously.
The paper also claims that the CIA failed to inform the German authorities
that Ramzi Binalshibh, a key logistics man for the attacks, had attended a
high level meeting of al-Qaeda activists in Malaysia over 18 months before
11 September.
Without that information the Germans could not prevent him re-entering the
country and contacting the Hamburg cell that was planning the hijackings.
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2) Next Door to Mohammed Atta
Israeli agents were living in Florida and tailing the future death pilots –
until their cover was blown.
by Oliver Schröm
Die Zeit; October 14, 2002
Translated from German by AntiWar.com
On April 30 of last year the US Air Force sounded an alarm. The security
division of the Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma City warned of an
"intelligence ring of Israeli art students". American law enforcement
agencies had earlier learned that a noticeably large number of Israeli
students had applied for jobs at software development and technology firms
that primarily served government agencies. The obvious suspicion was that
the young Israelis were members of a spy ring. A specially formed task
force, consisting of employees of the DEA, INS and Office of Security
Programs, looked into the matter.
The young Israelis were placed under surveillance and their personal
details were analyzed by computer. Die Zeit obtained the 61-page final
report, according to which, 120 Israelis, organized into cells of four to
six persons, formed a tightly organized and efficient espionage network. A
few of the putative students were actually specialists on eavesdropping,
radio technology, or counter-terrorism.
The Israelis were arrested, interrogated and subsequently deported. In the
world of intelligence, espionage among friends is an everyday occurrence.
In this case too many people were involved for the matter to be covered up.
But both the Israeli government and American authorities tried to downplay it.
Not until after the attacks of September 11 did the consequences of the spy
ring become clear. Apparently the agents were not interested in military or
industrial facilities, but were shadowing a number of suspects, who were
later involved in the terrorist attacks against the US. According to a
report of the French intelligence agency that Die Zeit examined, "according
to the FBI, Arab terrorists and suspected terror cells lived in Phoenix,
Arizona, as well as in Miami and Hollywood, Florida from December 2000 to
April 2001 in direct proximity to the Israeli spy cells."
According to the report, the Mossad agents were interested in the leader of
the terrorists, Mohammed Atta and his key accomplice, Marwan al-Shehi. Both
lived in Hamburg before they settled in Hollywood, Florida in order to plan
the attacks. A Mossad team was also operating in the same town. The leader,
Hanan Serfati, had rented several dwellings. "One of Serfati's apartments
was located on the corner of 701st St. and 21st Ave. [sic] in Hollywood,
right near the apartment of Atta and al-Shehi.", French intelligence
reported later. Everything indicates that the terrorists were constantly
observed by the Israelis. The chief Israeli agent was staying right near
the post office where the terrorists had a mailbox. The Mossad also had its
sights on Atta's accomplice Khalid al-Midhar, with whom the CIA was also
familiar, but allowed to run free. The Mossad apparently warned their
American counterparts several times about the terrorists, especially about
al-Midhar. The American government later admitted that they had received
such warnings prior to September 11. But at most that there were attacks
planned against American installations outside the United States.
Die Zeit has learned that a few weeks before the attacks, Israeli
intelligence gave US authorities a list with names of suspects who were
staying in the US for the purpose of preparing attacks. Apparently not
until shortly before September 11 did the CIA recognize that al-Midhar was
dangerous and asked law enforcement agencies to look for him.
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3) 9/11: WHAT DID ISRAEL KNOW?
– and when did they tell us?
by Justin Raimondo
AntiWar.com; October 4, 2002
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j100402.html
Israel had foreknowledge of 9/11 – that was Carl Cameron's explosive
contention, made last year in a blockbuster series of reports on Fox News
exposing an Israeli spy ring in the U.S. (1) New evidence confirms his
story – and points to a rather ominous conclusion….
Reporting the round-up and deportation of scores of Israeli agents –
masquerading as "art students" – Cameron noted last December that several
were "active Israeli military" and the rest had skills that one normally
associates with spies: electronic interception, explosives, and special
operations. Several failed polygraph tests when asked if they were engaged
in "surveillance activities against and in the United States." Aside from
trying to penetrate U.S. government facilities, this network, which went
into high gear in the months prior to 9/11, was also watching the Al Qaeda
terrorists, according to Cameron:
"There is no indication that the Israelis were involved in the 9-11
attacks, but investigators suspect that the Israelis may have gathered
intelligence about the attacks in advance, and not shared it. A highly
placed investigator said there are – quote – 'tie-ins.' But when asked for
details, he flatly refused to describe them, saying, – quote – 'evidence
linking these Israelis to 9-11 is classified. I cannot tell you about
evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information.'"
This was denied up and down by the U.S. and Israeli governments, and the
story was derided as an "urban myth," (2) denounced as an "anti-Semitic"
canard, and subsequently banished from the pages of the "mainstream" media.
But evidence began to pile up: reports of hundreds of Israelis descending
on U.S. government facilities, and a massive round-up of these operatives
claiming to be "art students," began to leak out. (3)
The story refused to die. A secret government report (4) (originating with
the Drug Enforcement Agency) detailing the highly suspicious activities of
these aspiring Israeli "artists" was subsequently uncovered, and a series
of stories appeared in the international media: Le Monde (5), the British
media, and then leaping across the Atlantic. An excellent article in Salon,
by Christopher Ketcham (6), and wire stories detailing the leaked contents
of the DEA report raised awareness of a possible Israeli connection to the
events surrounding 9/11.
I've been covering this since November of last year (7), when I noticed a
story in the Washington Post reporting the detention of some 60 Israelis
under the same legal rubric as the Arabs being held on suspicion of
terrorist connections. (8) These guys, said the Justice Department lawyers,
were of "special interest" to the government; and, as their role in the
events leading up to 9/11 begins to come into clearer focus, I can see why…..
A report in Die Zeit (9), a German newspaper, outlining the glitches and
outright obstructionism that led to the greatest intelligence failure in
our history reveals a stunning bit of information. The BBC reports:
"The paper has uncovered details of a major Israeli spy ring involving some
a 120 agents for the intelligence service Mossad operating across America
and some masquerading as arts students." (10)
The Israeli "art student" story has come a long way since the days when it
could be airily dismissed: the whitewashers (11) have been forced back to
their second line of defense, which is admitting that, yes, there was an
Israeli spy ring in the U.S., but they had no foreknowledge of 9/11. That
was the conclusion reached by a recent article in the Forward (12), as well
as an ABC News report, "The White Van." (13) But the latest revelation goes
further:
"The ring was reportedly hard on the heels of at least four members of the
hijack gang, including its leader Mohammed Atta."
The whitewashers, it seems, have retreated to their third line of defense,
as iterated by the BBC:
"But the Israeli agents were detected by their American counterparts and
thrown out of the country, it says. The US authorities said then that they
were students whose visas had expired.
"Just a month before the deadly attacks, the paper said, Mossad handed over
to the Americans a detailed report naming several suspects they believe
were preparing an attack on the United States."
So the Mossad has an alibi, after all. Or maybe not. For, according to
these same reports, including one in Der Spiegel:
"An entire troop of Israeli terror investigators disguised as students took
to the tracks of Arabic terrorists and their cells in the USA between
December 2000 and April 2001. During their undercover investigations, the
Israelis came very close to the later perpetrators of September 11. In
Hollywood, Florida they located both of the former Hamburg students and
later terrorist pilots Mohammed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi as potential
terrorists. Agents settled down in immediate proximity of their apartment
and observed the seemingly normal flight school students around the clock."
(14)
So they were living next door to the terrorists, including the leader of
the 9/11 hijackers, watching their every move – but didn't tell us what
they were up to until August, 2001.
The list turned over to the FBI by the Israelis apparently contained the
names of at least four of the nineteen hijackers, but the warning was
non-specific: only that these were potential terrorists. It stretches the
bounds of credulity to believe that, after observing them up close for an
extended period of time – and perhaps monitoring them in other ways – the
Israelis knew no more than this.
The DEA report names South Florida, and specifically Hollywood, a small
city near Ft. Lauderdale, as the nexus of the Israeli "art student" spy
ring: "The Hollywood, Florida area seems to be a central point for these
individuals with several having addresses in this area." The DEA
investigators also noted that a whole platoon of these characters,
including the leaders, were apprehended in the South Florida area from
March to May, 2001. Prior to 9/11, the authorities had detained 140 of them
nationwide (15): and they were still rounding them up, some 60 more, after
the event. (16)
So if the Israelis had decided, in August, to come clean with the
information they had, then why were federal agents still arresting and
detaining our "partners" in the "war on terrorism" in late November and
early December? The DEA report also shows that the South Florida operation
was active since at least January, perhaps earlier: plenty of time and
opportunity to gather more than vague inferences as to the terrorists'
intentions.
But the spin put on this by Die Zeit and Der Spiegel is that if only those
stupid Americans had listened to their friends, the Mossad, 9/11 would
never have happened. The latter avers that no sooner had the Mossad located
Atta and his crew, then the ungrateful Americans acted in their typically
pig-headed and even vindictive manner:
"Yet soon after, the agents were unmasked by US authorities and deported to
Israel. As usual in such cases, the exposure was not made public and only
led to disgruntlement between the traditionally competitive intelligence
agencies Mossad and CIA. This case proves once again that even in
concretely dangerous situations, the US agents were not obliged to
cooperate, instead opting to antagonize each other."
This case proves nothing of the sort. What it does prove is 1) that those
of us who identified the Israeli "art students" as part of a spy operation
in the U.S. were absolutely correct, 2) that the Israelis were not only
conducting covert operations against U.S. government facilities but were
also watching the hijackers very closely, and 3) that some people will go
to any lengths to avoid considering some very unpleasant and politically
explosive possibilities.
It is possible that the Israelis were doing more than merely watching the
hijackers. As Mohammed Atta and Marwan Alshehhi went back and forth between
Huffman Aviation, a flight school in nearby Venice, and their Hollywood
apartment, what were the Mossad agents next door doing – and why did they
wait until August, after their operation had been discovered and busted up,
to share this vital information?
But Der Spiegel knows better than to implicate the Israelis in anything
untoward, and instead mournfully reports that "observation of the …
terrorists also ceased" when the "art students" were apprehended. But if
the information had been shared then and there – in March, when the
authorities first became aware of the Hollywood-centered South Florida
operation – then what prevented the FBI from taking up where the Mossad had
left off? Der Spiegel is vague about this:
"The Israelis' list with at least four of the 19 assassins from September
11 was apparently not handled by the CIA with the necessary urgency, nor
was it forwarded to the FBI. Fact is that the US authorities did not
efficiently follow up on the Israeli agents' leads. Information on the
Israeli tips has also been made known in the USA during the [Senate
intelligence committee 9/11 hearings], which [have] been ongoing for weeks."
While the FBI is scapegoated for its alleged inefficiency, the Israelis
were not exactly forthcoming. On March 3, 2001, alerted to the Israeli "art
student" invasion, the Orlando office of the DEA took one Peer Segalovitz
into custody, and interrogated him for four hours. According to the DEA report:
"Segalovitz was untruthful about his reasoning to be in the United States
for approximately the first 3 hours. Segalovitz finally admitted that he
was one of approximately 30 Israeli art students who are currently in
Florida. Segalovitz would not admit what their purpose was in Florida, but
did state that they were not here for legitimate means."
A 27-year-old officer of the Israeli special military forces, attached to
the 650th battalion stationed in the Golan Heights, Segalovitz gave his
rank (Lieutenant) and serial number (5087989) and said that he "specialized
in demolition." After recounting his familiarity with military operations,
and stating "that the only thing he was not trained to operate was military
aircraft," he "asked agents not to divulge this information to Israel
because it would lead to his immediate arrest in Israel."
If it's true, as Der Spiegel avers, that the distinguished members of the
Senate Committee investigating 9/11 are pinning the blame on our own
intelligence agencies and exonerating the role of the Mossad, one can only
wonder why they don't call Mr. Segalovitz as an expert witness?
And while they're at it, they might also call for the extradition from
Israel of two people named on the FBI's terrorist suspect list (17):
Dominik Suter (18) and Ornit Levinson Suter, who fled when their Urban
Moving Systems office and warehouse was raided by the police (19). Four
employees of this New Jersey-based firm had been arrested on 9/11, hours
after the attacks, when they were seen cheering as the World Trade Towers
burned. (20) They were held for months, and then deported. Even Barbara
Walters' whitewash of this incident admitted that Urban Moving Systems was
undoubtedly a Mossad front.
I deal with this subject at length in my forthcoming book, The Terror
Enigma, to be published by Verso Books sometime next year. Suffice to say
here that the Israeli role in the events leading up to 9/11 is, at best,
highly suspicious. Certainly the news that their agents were close
neighbors of Mohammed Atta and an accomplice leads to some disturbing
juxtapositions.
Did the "art students" stand behind the terrorists in line at the local
supermarket? Did they bump into each other in the street – and what, pray
tell, did these dedicated Al Qaeda cadre think of a group of Israelis
living in such close proximity?
In considering the mystery of how the Mossad and Al Qaeda came to be next
door neighbors, I am reminded of this little exchange between Brit Hume and
Carl Cameron at the end of their December 11 broadcast (21):
HUME: "Carl, what about this question of advanced knowledge of what was
going to happen on 9-11? How clear are investigators that some Israeli
agents may have known something?"
CAMERON: "It's very explosive information, obviously, and there's a great
deal of evidence that they say they have collected – none of it necessarily
conclusive. It's more when they put it all together. A bigger question,
they say, is how could they not have known?"
Inquiring minds want to know….
Notes/Links
(1) http://www.firefox.1accesshost.com/cameron.html
(2) http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j031302.html
(3) http://antiwar.com/israelfiles2.html
(4) http://cryptome.org/dea-il-spy.htm
(5) http://www.antiwar.com/rep/lemonde1.html
(6) http://real-info.1accesshost.com/artstudents.html
(7) http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j112801.html
(8)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A3879-2001Nov22¬Found=true
(9) http://www.zeit.de/2002/41/Politik/200241_fahndungspannen.html
(10) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2294487.stm
(11) http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j062402.html
(12) http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.03.15/news2.html
(13) http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html
(14) http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,216421,00.html
(15) http://real-info.1accesshost.com/artstudents.html
(16)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A3879-2001Nov22¬Found=true
(17) http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j072602.html
(18)
http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:SClW8DA7bJQC:www.antiwar.com/justin/pf/p-j031502.html++urban+moving+systems+%22dominik+suter+%22+site:antiwar.com&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
(19) http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/WABC_091401_airports.html
(20) http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/forget.html
(21) http://www.firefox.1accesshost.com/cameron.html
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www.dissidentvoice.org | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 4:36 pm Post subject: "Long Kiss Goodnight" |
| Subj: Re: Important (about Coming Invasion of Iraq)
Date: 11/8/02 12:58:42 AM Pacific Standard Time
I have contacted Pilger's outlet to purchase a US standard VHS to show community groups if they have the different standard from the UK version....or do you know some way to convert their standard for use in the US? I am a total boob when it comes to tech stuff, especially VCR....thank goodness for DVD.....
Also, speaking of films......have you ever heard of a Samuel L Jackson film called the "Long Kiss Goodnight"???
A friend on a pro-Pal.board posted a 30 second clip that BLEW ME AWAY!!! it is a scene with three of the characters talking about CIA and US funding....and one man says to Jackson "well, we can't FAKE 4000 Americans dying at the WTC!....and Jackson says, "WHAT!? for more money? and the other guys says "yes, and we can blame it on the Moslems"!!! Here is the KICKER....the film was made and released in 1996!!! ---
so I HAD to pick up a copy right away....also I noted a reviewer from Egypt who comments on the same thing....!
I gotta see that film.....CHILLING...just gives more credence to the whole evil notion that it was a DoD/CIA plan....
just as mentioned about the Operation Northwoods and Kennedy....
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:02 PM
Subject: Important (about Coming Invasion of Iraq)
Thanks so much for forwarding this to me as I have been wanting to get a copy of this documentary since I first heard excerpts of it on the Pacifica radio station (KPFK 89.9) in Los Angeles.... There is also a book that Mr. Boyle has a chapter in (the same Mr. Boyle from the email list) as I think it is call "Shattered Ilusions" (it is about the Middle East as well).
Also, I would like to put word out about the BBC's "Dead in the Water" documentary (about the USS Liberty attack) which you can find out more about via the following URL:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/11/06/new-evidence-on-uss-liberty-page-3.php
Please forward the following article anywhere that you can on the Internet (as this ongoing cover-up of Israeli treachery against the USA is an absolute travesty of justice and should be considered as such by any patriotic American):
http://www.rense.com/general26/accodek.htm
Also, please acquire a copy of the new John Pilger documentary about Palestine ("Palestine is Still the Issue") which you can do by accessing the following URL:
http://www.johnpilger.com/
Robert Fisk talks about this Pilger documentary in the following articles:
http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=333275
http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=344510
The following article by Fisk pretty much says it all:
http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=285777
In a message dated 11/7/02 12:11:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, madams12@earthlink.net writes:
Subj:VIDEO and Amazon PROBLEM.....
Date:11/7/02 12:11:19 PM Pacific Standard Time
From:madams12@earthlink.net
To:Jdtmorris@aol.com,
VIDEO you MUST purchase......here is the website: the dollars you spend sustain the promotion of the film......
http://hiddenwars.org/ film called "Hidden Wars of Desert Storm"......narrated by John Hurt.....outstandingly fine documentary.
AND >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
this...........
Dear friends////
Just got this one.....and it will require a rethink on how we spend our dollars.....thanks to Robbie for the forward.....
mimi
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Hello everyone. It looks like Amazon.com is sponsoring the Israeli Occupation Army.
This is the link found on the Jerusalem Post website:
http://ads.jpost.com/RealMedia/ads/adstream_nx.cgi/www.jpost.com/News/1371796397@Top,Top1,Top2,Top3,Middle1,Middle2,Bottom,TopRight,Article1!Article1
I guess, I won't be buying my EID or Xmas gifts from there anymore.
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