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Guest · Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 7:57 am Post subject: BBC "Dead in the Water"

Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:53 AM

BBC "Dead in the Water"

It is now available from:

USS Liberty Friends,
PO Box 373164,
Satellite beach,Fl 32937.
Price: DVD $37.00. VHS $29.85 includes S&H.
Aprox 69 min in length it is an important expose of the attack.
It highlights Richard Helm, our past respected director of the CIA .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/dead_in_the_water.shtml

Guest · Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: BBC "Dead in the Water"

Guest · Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 11:49 pm Post subject:

BBC "Dead in the Water"

It highlights Richard Helm, our past respected director of the CIA .

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It highlights former Secretary of Defense McNamara stating quite clearly:

"I am absolutely certain that is false."

to the statement, not question of:

"You recalled planes sent to rescue the Liberty ..."

followed by:

"Absolutely not."

when at last asked:

"You didn't send a signal to the Sixth Fleet?"

As compared to a story told by someone who is suppose to have heard it from someone else, and not "revealed" until long after the supposed source had passed away.

Guest

After the airing of the BBC doc on the USS Liberty, 'DEAD IN THE WATER' I came to the conclusion that the Israelis are always full of schemes and espionage.

The Israeli Mossad was behind the 9/11 attacks: they were a block away from the hijackers in Florida at the flight school. They were caught celebrating the WTC towers going down, and why didn't 4,000 Israelis and Jews not show up for work that fatefull day of 9/11? Because they knew.

And history is repeating it self again. Israel and the JINSA was behind this just as the Israelis were behind the sinking of the USS Liberty in 67. Why else would all the Jews want this key piece of US naval history hidden?

From what I hear is that the USS Liberty doc won't ever be played in the US because the Jews control the media there. That's too bad. I guess it's true that entire government was hijacked by those Zionist extremists and the Americans are just too stupid to figure it out. Sad.

So the parallel? Well, Israelis attack the USS Liberty to get the US to attack Egypt in 67. So the Israelis think they can do this again by killing thousands of innocent people in New York and in the Pentagon so they can get the US to attack Iraq and then Iran.

And why? Because the Israelis and Jews are paranoid. But they are so smart, they get others to do the dirty work for them. Clever bastards aren't they?

Guest

I agree with you that the Israelis at least knew about 9/11 beforehand (if they were involved in it directly). Keep in mind the Lavon Affair and what is mentioned in the following articles (the intentional and brutal attack on the USS Liberty was not the first act of Israeli treachery against the USA):

http://www.mediamonitors.net/gillespie1.html

Why wasn't there much coverage on the "dancing Israelis" who cheered as they watched the World Trade Center towers come down... I know why.. Because of biased pro-Israel media/press.. For more on this "Dancing Israeli" story, access the following:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

Guest

I don't support the racism that he has been accused of, but David Duke could not be more accurate with regard to what he mentions about Israeli treachery against the USA (with the Lavon Affair and USS Liberty attack) in the following article:

http://www.davidduke.com/writings/howisraeliterror.shtml

Guest

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/11/08/israel-and-9-11-the-story-that-doesn-t-go-away.php

Guest

Arab Ministers Welcome UN Resolution on Iraq
By REUTERS

Filed at 3:06 p.m. ET

CAIRO (Reuters) - Arab foreign ministers on Sunday welcomed a new U.N. resolution on disarming Iraq and Egypt's foreign minister said Baghdad appeared positively inclined toward accepting the tough new text.

As the clock ticked for Baghdad to accept the U.N. Security Council's tough new terms or face the threat of military action, delegates at an extraordinary meeting of Arab foreign ministers urged Baghdad and the United Nations to continue cooperating to avert a war which could destabilize the entire region.

Iraq has until November 15 to agree to the U.N. Security Council resolution, which received unanimous backing on Friday. Parliamentary sources in Baghdad said Iraq's parliament would meet in emergency session on Monday to decide a response.

Top weapons inspectors are due to travel to Baghdad on November 18 to set up communications, transport and laboratories.

A statement issued at the Cairo talks said the ministers ``welcome what was mentioned in Resolution 1441 stating that the Security Council is the only appropriate body which can evaluate the reports written by inspectors.''

Asked about Iraq's likely response to the resolution, Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Maher told reporters: ``The indications are positive and there was a general feeling during the meeting that the cooperation of Iraq with the inspectors will be instrumental in avoiding any military operation.''

Asked if Arab ministers had called on Iraq to agree to the new terms, Maher told reporters: ``The Iraqi tendency is positive in general. That's why there was no need to make such a call.''

Iraqi Foreign Minister Naji Sabri said earlier in Cairo that his country was still studying Friday's vote.

PRESSURE ON IRAQ

The resolution gives inspectors sweeping new rights and Iraq 30 days to submit a detailed list of its weapons. It also gives the Security Council a key role before any possible attack, but does not force Washington to seek authorization for war.

The resolution and comments from ministers at the Arab League meeting saying the text presented a ray of hope for peace has turned up the heat on Iraq to yield to the U.N.'s demands.

Washington, which accuses Iraq of harboring weapons of mass destruction, has called on Arab states to drive the point home to Baghdad that this was its last chance to avert a strike.

The Arab statement also called on Security Council members who had given assurances to Syria -- the only Arab state on the Council -- that the resolution was not a pretext for a strike, to stick to this commitment and ensure that the new U.N. text is not used as an automatic trigger for a military strike.

Syrian Foreign Minister Farouq al-Shara said his country had only agreed to the resolution after receiving a letter from Secretary of State Colin Powell assuring them the text could not be used as an excuse for military action.

Arab ministers also said they welcomed ``Iraq's unconditional acceptance of the return of international inspectors and urge the continuation of cooperation between the United Nations and Iraq to solve all outstanding problems peacefully.''

Iraq has previously agreed to the unconditional return of the inspectors, whose are to verify the dismantling of banned chemical, biological, nuclear and long-range missile programs. Iraq says all such programs have been dismantled.

Arab ministers also demanded that ``inspection teams carry out their mission with professionalism, complete neutrality and objectivity and that they do not carry out provocative acts so as to ensure their credibility.''

They demanded that Arab experts be included among the inspectors and said Arabs remained ``committed to maintaining Iraq's security, safety, sovereignty and territorial integrity.''

As is common in joint Arab statements, the ministers also called on Israel to heed U.N. resolutions pertaining to the Jewish state. Arabs are particularly concerned about resolutions concerning the return of occupied land.

Disarmament inspections originally started after Iraqi forces were expelled from neighboring Kuwait by a U.S.-led coalition in the 1991 Gulf War. Inspectors withdrew in 1998 in a wrangle over access to President Saddam Hussein's palaces.

we own america · Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 6:50 am Post subject: we own america, says who?

we own america. get used to it. doesn't matter what you do. he who controls the media controls the nation.

:D

m2jranch@earthlink.net

To the writer who knocks the documentary, the first statement you make
shows you have no idea at all as to what you are talking about. You state
the "unarmed vessel" is an untruth. Do you call a couple of .50 calibre
machine guns, maybe 6 shotguns, possibly the same number of M16's
and a half dozen .45's ARMED??????? I was not on the USS LIBERTY so I
cannot know her exact armament; however, I WAS on a sister ship and I
KNOW what arms that ship had aboard. We did, on occasion, shoot clay
pigeons off the fan tail just to give the two gunners mates aboard some
practice in cleaning the weapons. LIBERTY, like her 4 sisters and the
'cousins' (PUEBLO and BANNER) had no weapons larger than .50 calibre
machine guns with insufficiently trained personnel to man them for
protection. The fact USS LIBERTY did not sink -- as was the Israeli
intention -- attests the stamina of her personnel and the standard of
production of her builders (since the Liberty and Victory {LIBERTY} hulls
were made in WW II to be expendable). GOD BLESS the American
people!

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