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Posted on Tue, Oct. 08, 2002
Dissent over going to war grows among U.S. government officials
BY WARREN P. STROBEL, JONATHAN S. LANDAY AND JOHN WALCOTT
wstrobel@krwashington.com
WASHINGTON - While President Bush marshals congressional and international support for invading Iraq, a growing number of military officers, intelligence professionals and diplomats in his own government privately have deep misgivings about the administration's double-time march toward war.
These officials charge that administration hawks have exaggerated evidence of the threat that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein poses -- including distorting his links to the al Qaeda terrorist network -- have overstated the extent of international support for attacking Iraq and have downplayed the potential repercussions of a new war in the Middle East.
They charge that the administration squelches dissenting views and that intelligence analysts are under intense pressure to produce reports supporting the White House's argument that Hussein poses such an immediate threat to the United States that preemptive military action is necessary.
''Analysts at the working level in the intelligence community are feeling very strong pressure from the Pentagon to cook the intelligence books,'' said one official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
VIEWS ECHOED
A dozen other officials echoed his views in interviews with the Knight Ridder Washington Bureau.
They cited recent suggestions by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice that Hussein and Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network are working together.
Rumsfeld said on Sept. 26 that the U.S. government has ''bulletproof'' confirmation of links between Iraq and al Qaeda members, including ''solid evidence'' that members of the terrorist network maintain a presence in Iraq.
The facts are much less conclusive. Officials said Rumsfeld's statement was based in part on intercepted telephone calls in which an al Qaeda member who apparently was passing through Baghdad was overheard calling friends or relatives, intelligence officials said.
The intercepts provide no evidence that the suspected terrorist was working with the Iraqi regime or that he was working on a terrorist operation while he was in Iraq, they said.
In his Monday night speech, President Bush said a senior al Qaeda leader received medical treatment in Baghdad this year -- implying larger cooperation -- but he offered no evidence of complicity in any plot between the terrorist and Hussein's regime.
Rumsfeld also suggested that the Iraqi regime has offered safe haven to bin Laden and Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar.
While technically true, that too is misleading. Intelligence reports said the Iraqi ambassador to Turkey, a longtime intelligence officer, made the offer during a visit to Afghanistan in late 1998, after the United States attacked al Qaeda training camps with cruise missiles to retaliate for the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. But officials said the same intelligence reports said bin Laden rejected the offer because he didn't want Hussein to control his group.
NO IRONCLAD PROOF
In fact, the officials said, there's no ironclad evidence that the Iraqi regime and the terrorist network are working together, or that Hussein has ever contemplated giving chemical or biological weapons to al Qaeda, with whom he has deep ideological differences.
None of the dissenting officials, who work in a number of different agencies, would agree to speak publicly. But many of them have long experience in the Middle East and South Asia, and all spoke in similar terms about their unease with the way that U.S. political leaders are dealing with Iraq.
All agreed that Hussein is a threat who eventually must be dealt with, and none flatly opposes military action. But, they say, the U.S. government has no dramatic new knowledge about the Iraqi leader that justifies Bush's urgent call to arms.
''I've seen nothing that's compelling,'' said one military officer who has access to intelligence reports.
Some lawmakers have voiced similar concerns after receiving CIA briefings.
Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., said some information he had seen did not support Bush's portrayal of the Iraqi threat.
''It's troubling to have classified information that contradicts statements made by the administration,'' Durbin said. ``There's more they should share with the public.''
Florida's Sen. Bob Graham, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, last week expressed frustration with the information he was receiving from the CIA and questioned the need to elevate Iraq to ``our No. 1 threat.''
In his Monday night speech, Bush stressed that if Hussein gained control of radioactive material no bigger than ''a softball'' he could build a nuclear weapon sufficient to intimidate his region, blackmail the world and covertly arm terrorists. But a senior administration intelligence official notes that Hussein has sought such highly enriched uranium for many years without success, and there is no evidence that he has it now.
Moreover, the senior official said, Hussein has no way to deliver a nuclear weapon against a U.S. target.
''Give them a nuclear weapon and you have the problem of delivery. Give them delivery, even clandestine, and you have a problem of plausible denial. Does anyone think that a nuclear weapon detonating in a Ryder truck or tramp freighter would not automatically trigger a response that would include Iraq, Iran, North Korea?'' the intelligence official asked.
Here are some other examples of questionable statements:
• Vice President Dick Cheney said in late August that Iraq might have nuclear weapons ``fairly soon.''
A CIA report released Friday said it could take Iraq until the last half of the decade to produce a nuclear weapon, unless it could acquire bomb-grade uranium or plutonium on the black market.
• Also in August, Rumsfeld suggested that al Qaeda operatives fleeing Afghanistan were taking refuge in Iraq with Hussein's assistance.
Rumsfeld apparently was referring to about 150 members of the militant Islamic group Ansar al Islam (Supporters of Islam) who have taken refuge in Kurdish areas of northern Iraq. One of America's would-be Kurdish allies controls that part of the country, however, not Hussein.
WALKOVER NOTION
Current and former military officers also question the view sometimes expressed by Cheney, Rumsfeld and their civilian advisors in and out of the U.S. government that an American-led campaign against the Iraqi military would be a walkover.
''It is an article of faith among those with no military experience that the Iraqi military is low-hanging fruit,'' one intelligence officer said.
He challenged that notion, citing the U.S. experience in Somalia, where militiamen took thousands of casualties in 1993 but still managed to kill U.S. soldiers and force an American withdrawal.
Iraqi commanders, some officials warned, also could unleash chemical or biological weapons -- although the American military is warning them they could face war crimes charges if they do -- or U.S. airstrikes could do so inadvertently.
Hussein also might try to strike Israel or Saudi Arabia with Scud missiles tipped with chemical or biological weapons. | |  | | Guest | | | | Guest | | | | Guest | | | | *Mutt American | | Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 4:57 am Post subject: 296 to 133 |
| House OKs use of force against Iraq
Most Democrats oppose; Daschle throws support to Bush
MSNBC STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS
WASHINGTON, Oct. 10 — The House voted solidly Thursday to grant President Bush authority to use force against Iraq, approving a resolution endorsed by the president and leaders from both parties. The Senate was prepared to act in chorus late Thursday night after it rejected a bid by opponents to slow down a final vote.
“MR. PRESIDENT, we are about to give you a great trust,” said House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Texas.
At a news conference a short time later, Bush thanked lawmakers and said: “The House of Representatives has spoken clearly to the world and to the U.N. Security Council.”
Bush reiterated that Iraq “must disarm and comply with all existing resolutions or it will be forced to comply. There are no other options.”
The House vote was 296 to 133, a strong endorsement of Bush’s insistence that he would work with the United Nations if possible but alone if necessary to strip Iraqi President Saddam Hussein of weapons of mass destruction the United States says he harbors. A majority of Democrats voted against the resolution, even though their House leader, Dick Gephardt of Missouri, was one of its authors.
DASCHLE COMES ABOARD
Earlier, the last holdout among major Democratic congressional leaders, Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota, announced that he had put aside his misgivings and support the Bush resolution, and the Senate moved toward a final vote by around midnight, NBC News’ Joel Seidman reported. | | | | Guest | | Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 8:08 am Post subject: |
| | Was there ever any doubt? | | | | Guest | | Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 8:31 am Post subject: Oldie but Goodie? |
| Over There
Johnnie, get your gun,
Get your gun, get your gun,
Take it on the run,
On the run, on the run.
Hear them calling, you and me,
Every son of liberty.
Hurry right away,
No delay, no delay,
Make your daddy glad
To have had such a lad.
Tell your sweetheart not pine,
To be proud her boy's in line.
Chorus
Over there, over there,
Send the word, send the word over there--
That the Yanks are coming, The Yanks are coming,
The drums rum-tumming Ev'rywhere.
So prepare, say a pray'r,
Send the word, send the word to beware.
We'll be over, we're coming over,
And we won't come back till it's over Over there.
Johnnie, get your gun, Get your gun, get your gun,
Johnnie show the '(Insert perjorative) Who's a son of a gun.
Hoist the flag and let her fly,
Yankee Doodle do or die.
Pack your little kit, Show your grit, do your bit.
Yankee Doodle fill the ranks, From the towns and the tanks.
Make your mother proud of you,
And the old Red, White and Blue.
The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history.
~ Friedrich Hegel ~ | | | | Guest | | | | Guest | | | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2002 3:28 am Post subject: |
| Belafonte Stands by Criticism of Powell
Colin Powell decried as doing nothing but serving his master. Black peoples' right to individual thought surrenders
Last Updated: October 11, 2002 07:22 PM ET
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Singer Harry Belafonte said on Friday he stands by remarks likening Secretary of State Colin Powell to a plantation slave who is "serving his master well" but insisted he never meant to defame the former general.
"This was not a personal attack on Colin Powell," Belafonte said in a statement issued through his New York-based publicist. "However ... speaking on behalf of so many African American citizens, I have found Colin Powell to be a tragic failure."
Belafonte, 75, who like Powell is a black man of Jamaican descent, responded in racially charged terms when asked during a radio interview on Tuesday about Powell's position in the debate over possible U.S. military force against Iraq.
"...there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and there were those slaves that lived in the house," Belafonte said in the interview. "You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master exactly the way the master intended to have you serve him. Colin Powell's committed to come into the house of the master."
Reacting to Belafonte's remarks a day later on CNN's "Larry King Live," Powell said the singer's slave reference was "unfortunate" and a "throwback to another time and another place that I wish Harry had thought twice about using."
In his follow-up statement on Friday, Belafonte said he did not "intend to defame ... Powell as an individual." But he went on to largely repeat his criticism of the Cabinet secretary.
In characterizing Powell as "serving his master well," Belafonte said, he was referring to President Bush.
"My analogy to the plantation existence I say without regret, and maintain that the overwhelming majority of black people in this country agree that the impending war with Iraq is a colossal mistake," the entertainer said.
Belafonte, who popularized calypso music with such 1950s hits as "Banana Boat (Day-O)" and "Jamaica Farewell," is performing this weekend in San Diego. | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
