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Guest · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 3:47 pm Post subject:

GIRL GET OFF YO ISRAEL BS..ISRAEL DOES NOT BELONG IN THAT AREA...BEFORE WW 2 THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO TURMOIL IN THAT REGION..THE ZIONISTS HAVE WRECKED ALL THAT WAS WELL IN THAT AREA IN THE HOPES OF OBTAININ ONE GOAL, AND THAT BEING THE JEWS AS THE CHOSEN PEOPLE..RECENTLY US SENATE VOTED ON RECOGNIZED JERUSALEM AS ISRAELS CAPITAL, WHO THE HELL IN THE US HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHOS CAPITAL THAT SHOULD BE..THIS IS SICK AND INDECENT BEHAVIOR BY BOTH PARTIES..THERE R STILL PALESTINIANS WHO HAVE LAND DEEDS TO THIS AREAS AND ARENT EVEN ALLOWED TO LIVE ON THE PIECE OF LAND THAT IS DOCUMENTED AS THEIRS...THE ZIONISTS R GOIN TO RUIN IT ALL FOR US..ISRAEL IS LIKE HITLERS GERMANY BC IT IS RACIN TO ACHIEVE A ALL JEWISH STATE, WHICH REMINDS ME OF HITLERS IDEA OF AN ALL ARYAN RACE..NO SUCH THING AS A STATE THAT ONLY A CITIZEN CAN BE ONE RELIGION..THINK PEOPLE..ALSO THEW JEWS PUT HITLER IN POWER AND THEY REEPED WHAT THEY SOWED..EVER HEAR OF THE ROTHCHILDS...ANYWAYS IM NOT JUSTIFYIN THE HOLOCAUST BC AS AN HISTORIAN IT ONLY RANKS BEHIND SLAVERY AS ONE OF THE WORST EXAMPLES OF HUMAN ERROR SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME..WAKE UP PEOPLE

bryner1 · Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 4:17 am Post subject:

Christians never promote violence sounds as though you need to dust off that bible and pray not only for yourself but for all of humankind to find peace with one another.

Guest · Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:56 am Post subject: Apocalypse Soon

Apocalypse Soon
by Ann Pettifer
Dissident Voice
November 8, 2002
____________________

At the end of August, Jonathan Freedland -- a senior journalist at the
Guardian, a liberal British newspaper -- interviewed Britain's Chief Rabbi,
Jonathan Sacks. It caused a furor: a voice that does not echo the party
line is not tolerated. The scholarly Sacks belongs to the Orthodox wing of
Judaism and was well known in the 1980s for being Margaret Thatcher's
favorite clergyperson: there was the shared admiration for Victorian family
values and neo-liberal economics. Rabbi Sacks never embarrassed his Prime
Minister with crusades for social justice, and on issues like homosexuality
he was impeccably Levitical. Within his own faith community his support for
the state of Israel was unwavering; not a single word of criticism ever
passed his lips - until now.

In his conversation with Freedland, Rabbi Sacks was emphatic about how
besieged Israelis felt. Sickened by suicide bombing, he expressed
frustration with the Palestinians for not seizing the prospects for peace
which he felt were offered by the Oslo agreement. But then Sacks did the
unthinkable - he volunteered a temperate, cautious even, reading of
Israel's 35-year occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. It doesn't square,
he said, with Yahweh's admonition, repeated 36 times in the Mosaic books:
"You were exiled in order to know what it feels like to be exiles." Sacks
sees the current situation as "nothing less than tragic." The occupation is
forcing Israel "into postures that are at odds with its deepest ideals." To
underscore his point he quotes the 12th century Jewish sage Maimonides:
"Israel did not long for the Messiah so it could lord it over other
nations."

His remarks created a rumpus, both inside Israel and across the diaspora.
There were calls from the Jerusalem Post for Sacks' resignation. He had
made himself irrelevant, the paper thundered. Other rabbis pronounced his
statement "far beyond the pale." The attacks were surprisingly hostile and
left Sacks shaken. Gerald Kaufmann, a Member of Parliament for more than 30
years, shrewdly observed that Rabbi Sacks had not encountered Jewish abuse
before, had never been called a self-hating Jew as he, Kaufmann, often has
-- as when he announced that he would not be visiting Israel again until
the occupation ended. (In a film he made for the BBC, Kaufmann pays lyrical
tribute to his first visit in the 1960s.) However, in a follow-up piece,
Jonathan Freedland went on to commend Rabbi Sacks for coming down on the
right side of the issue. History, said Freedland, is certain to judge the
occupation harshly and he called upon the rest of the Jewish world to
decide where it stands on "this folly."

A couple of years ago, just before the second intifada, I had the
opportunity to visit Gaza. On the day after our arrival in Israel -- the
spouse was there to lecture on post-apartheid South Africa -- we had the
chance to accompany a small group of progressive Knesset members to Gaza.
They were going to gather evidence from Palestinian fishermen being
harassed by young conscripts in the Israeli navy. On a very cold March day,
we listened as these barefoot men told their harrowing stories. Very early
in the morning and again late in the afternoon, we had also observed the
rituals of Palestinian humiliation at checkpoints in which the parallels
with apartheid South Africa were obvious.

The gut-wrenching poverty of the area was thrown into high relief by the
settlements we passed: neat villages behind high walls, razor wire and gun
emplacements. Settler children were in colorful costumes for the feast of
Purim. On our side of the barricades exhausted looking Palestinian children
rode or drove scrawny donkeys. A few days later, the University where the
spouse had lectured sent a car to drive us from the Negev to Jerusalem. Our
host, an old friend, was with us. The Israeli driver asked her, in Hebrew,
if it would be OK for us to take the route through the Occupied
Territories, which we did. At one point a toxic smell wafted through the
open windows and I wondered out loud about its source. Our driver made a
jocular remark, again in Hebrew, which our companion translated: "He says
it's dead Arab -- an Arab graveyard." The racism was reflexive.

The vitriol leveled at Rabbi Sacks surprised me, and it was almost
certainly coming from Jews who have never witnessed the Occupation first
hand. I thought such harsh treatment was reserved for the likes of an
Israeli friend who actively opposes the Likud government and writes
excoriating pieces on the occupation for the Israeli and American press.
(Now back in Israel, he had come to Notre Dame to work for his doctorate --
after having done military service, in the course of which he sustained a
severe combat injury from a grenade.) The abuse this man gets goes way
beyond being called a self-hating Jew. I have seen some of the e-mails.
They are vile. From the safety of his perch in the natural sciences at
Notre Dame, a Jewish professor wrote: "Please do us all a favor and visit
all the discos, pizza places, dining halls, malls and super markets you
can. Perhaps one of these days you will be in the path of those liberators
of Palestinian suffering and be blown right out of this world." And someone
who guest lectures at synagogues and to Jewish organizations in South Bend
tells me that very senior people often wish my friend dead -- in the most
graphic of terms.

Such barbaric attempts to silence the critics of occupation are inexcusable
and, moreover, inexplicable given that Israeli colonialism and the settler
communities appear to have won the political battle in Israel and, more
importantly, in the US. AIPAC (the American Israeli Public Affairs
Committee -- otherwise known as the Israeli lobby) has spent vast amounts
of money on politicians, Republicans and Democrats, to ensure that Israel's
government gets to write its own ticket. The real coup, however, has been
in the Pentagon where Jewish-Americans Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith and
Richard Perle are calling the shots. Not only do these men back the
right-wing Likud Party's policies on the Occupied Territories and the
settlers, they helped to formulate them. Douglas Feith, in a previous
incarnation as policy chairman of the National Unity Coalition for Israel,
argued that Israel should re-occupy all land ceded to the Palestinian
Authority, even as he acknowledged that "the price in blood would be high."
This sentiment is not very different from one expressed by the ultra-right
leader of Israel's National Religious Party and quoted in Freedland's
Guardian piece: he called Israel's Arab citizens "a cancer to be removed."
(To which Rabbi Sacks responded, to his credit, "God forbid.")

Furthermore, the Pentagon troika has skilled propagandists in Jewish
neo-cons like the ubiquitous David Brooks and William Kristol, both at the
influential Weekly Standard which has become a wholly owned subsidiary of
the Pentagon. And, as an article in The Nation points out, the editorial
page at the Washington Post is also resolutely in the Pentagon's corner.
Now Perle, Woflowitz and Feith are planning the war against Saddam Hussein,
at the end of which the issue of the Occupied Territories, they hope, will
be settled once and for all in Israel's favor. Anatol Lieven, a senior
associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, writing in The
London Review of Books, argues that another Gulf war would be
"breathtakingly reckless." The push is coming from men, in Washington and
Jerusalem, obsessed with power who "take an extremely unreal view of the
rest of the world and are insensitive to the point of autism when it comes
to the character and motivation of others." Still, Lieven says, should
things go wrong and war ignite a conflagration in the Middle East, it might
at least trigger a discussion and bring into the open "the calamitous role
of the Israeli lobby" in US politics.

The lobby has been successful in getting the media and politicians to
change the subject whenever debate about weaponsofmassdestruction (as Gore
Vidal now calls them) turns to Israel. An unstated assumption is that
Israel, as a rational polity, can be trusted never to do anything rash or
vengeful. This, I think, underestimates the rabid strain of Jewish
fundamentalism in Israeli politics. Some years ago, I was part of a
Jewish-Christian dialogue in which participants were drawn from the
University and the local community. I still recall the chilling response
from an Israeli rabbi - a visiting scholar in the Notre Dame Theology
Department - during an energetic discussion of the Occupied Territories.
The rabbi insisted they were necessary for Israel's security and went on to
warn that should Israel ever feel threatened, it would not hesitate "to
bring down the whole Temple." His threat, not in the least veiled, was made
in the context of Israel being a nuclear power.

A last word on the dangers posed to world peace should go to a Californian
rabbi, Haim Dov Beliak , who studied at the Merkaz Harav yeshiva in Israel
when it was the ideological center for the settler movement. He is quoted
in a sober analysis (published recently in the National Catholic Reporter)
of the apocalyptic, Christian Zionist movement which supports both the
Occupation and the settlements. Rabbi Beliak is troubled that "the American
public knows little about the settlers; there is a profound lack of
curiosity about them." They are, he believes, "deeply problematic because
they are going to cause World War III. They are not dealing with normal
political reality. There is a complete denial of any rights Arabs might
have."

** Ann Pettifer is a freelance writer and the publisher of Common Sense,
the alternative newspaper at the University of Notre Dame.

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Bush is intent on painting allies and enemies in the Middle East as evil
By Robert Fisk
10 September 2002

The crucial question remains: is the Iraqi President mad as well as bad?
Just as Americans are recovering from the harrowing television re-runs of the 11 September attacks, their President is going to launch the biggest reshaping of the Middle East since the British and French parcelled out the Arab lands after the 1914-18 war. When he addresses the United Nations on Thursday, George Bush will be threatening not only Iraq – which had absolutely nothing to do with the crimes against humanity in New York and Washington – but Syria, Iran and, by extension, Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

The Syrian Accountability Act, which accuses Damascus of supporting "terrorism", will come into force as President Bush is speaking and will follow only days after the State Department branded the Lebanese Hizbollah as the "A-team of terrorism", more dangerous even than Osama bin Laden's al-Qa'ida. Like Iraq, the Hizbollah had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks – indeed, they were among the first to condemn them – but the White House now seems set on painting allies and enemies alike in the Middle East as a focus of evil.

Only The Nation among all of America's newspapers and magazines has dared to point out that a large number of former Israeli lobbyists are now working within the American administration and the Bush plans for the Middle East – which could cause a massive political upheaval in the Arab world – fit perfectly into Israel's own dreams for the region. The magazine listed Vice-President Dick Cheney – the arch-hawk in the US administration – and John Bolton, now under-secretary of state for Arms Control, with Douglas Feith, the third most senior executive at the Pentagon, as members of the advisory board of the pro-Israeli Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (Jinsa) before joining the Bush government. Richard Perle, chairman of the Pentagon's Defence Policy Board, is still an adviser on the institute, as is the former CIA director James Woolsey.

Michael Ledeen, described by The Nation as "one of the most influential 'Jinsans' in Washington" has been calling for "total war" against "terror" – with "regime change" for Syria, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority. Mr Perle advises the Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld – who refers to the West Bank and Gaza as "the so-called occupied territories" – and arranged the anti-Saudi "kernel of evil" briefing by Laurent Murawiec that so outraged the Saudi royal family last month. The Saudi regime may itself be in great danger as the princes of the House of Saud attempt to seize more power for themselves in advance of the depart-ure of the dying King Fahd.

Jinsa's website says it exists to "inform the American defence and foreign affairs community about the important role Israel can and does play in bolstering democratic interests in the Mediterranean and the Middle East". Next month, Michael Rubin of the right-wing and pro-Israeli American Enterprise Institute – who referred to the outgoing UN human rights commissioner Mary Robinson as an abettor of "terrorism" – joins the US Defence Department as an Iran-Iraq "expert".

According to The Nation, Irving Moskovitz, the California bingo magnate who has funded settlements in the Israeli-occupied territories, is a donor as well as a director of Jinsa.

President Bush, of course, will not be talking about the influence of these pro-Israeli lobbyists when he presents his vision of the Middle East at the United Nations on Thursday.

Nor will he give the slightest indication that the region is, in the words of its own kings and dictators, a powder keg of resentment and anger. The tectonic plates of the Arab world are now grinding with increasing violence. Into this political earthquake zone, Mr Bush now seems intent on leading his country, with his loyal British ally.

Most of today's Arab nations were fashioned out of the ruins of the Ottoman Empire by Britain and France in the aftermath of the First World War – and Palestinians still blame Britain today for supporting the formation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

Both European nations stationed tens of thousands of troops across the region, suppressing Arab revolts in Palestine, Syria and Lebanon – itself created by the French at the request of its Christian Maronite community. The whole colonial framework led to the loss of tens of thousands of lives before both the British and French retreated from the Middle East.

Now President Bush seems set on following the colonial powers into the region for another military and political adventure – ostensibly to spread "democracy" among those nations it most despises (Iraq, Palestine and Iran) but in fact more likely to increase American control of an increasingly anti-Western Arab world.

The Arabs themselves warn that this will lead to massive instability and widespread violence. The Israelis – and their allies in the US administration – are hell bent on the whole shebang.

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Zionist Lackey Pat Clawson Pushing Iraq Invasion

I keep seeing this horrible Pat Clawson (who is war hawking to invade Iraq) interviewed on CNN and other programs.. Then I went to the Institute that he is affiliated with, and it couldn't be more Zionist:

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/

Pinnochio

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The blackmailing of America by Israel (for Iraq Attack)!

[The blackmailing of America! More American tax-payers funds needed to support a racist regime! ]

PM Sharon plans to ask U.S. for covert aid that could top $10 billion

Reported by: Amnon Barzilai and Natan Guttman
http://www.sabawoon.com/articles.asp?id=11308&view=detail

10/21/2002
(Ha`aretz, Israel):

An inter-ministerial team headed by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's bureau chief, Dov Weisglass, is working on a proposal requesting American economic assistance that could top $10 billion.

The team includes representatives from the treasury, the Foreign Ministry and the Defense Ministry.

A government source said the reason for the aid request stems from the United States' expected campaign against Iraq coupled with the American desire that Israel not interfere with Washington's plans or use IDF troops against Iraq.

Sources at the Prime Minister's Office said yesterday that American readiness to provide economic assistance has not been made in concrete terms.

However, a number of ideas have cropped up in Jerusalem over the type of aid Israel could use: cash, guarantees for low-interest bank loans from American banks, direct state-to-state loans from the U.S. treasury, and the conversion of some American defense aid into shekels.

Currently, Washington provides Israel $2.1 billion a year that must be spent in the United States on defense supplies. One proposal is for $2 billion to be converted to shekels and used to purchase defense equipment from Israeli manufacturers in the hope that it would invigorate the Israeli economy.

The final proposal will be worked out by the inter-ministerial committee and the White House.

Discussions about economic aid came up during the prime minister's recent trip to Washington, and, in particular, during talks between Weisglass and National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice.

Weisglass said the aid was necessary to get the Israeli economy moving; U.S. President George W. Bush mentioned American confidence in Israel's economy during a White House press conference with Sharon after their meeting last week.

Other than the annual economic aid, Israel expects fulfillment of a July 2000 decision made by then-president Bill Clinton to then-premier Ehud Barak for a $800 million grant. Since then, the sum has dropped to $200 million, and discussions were frozen, for bureaucratic reasons, after Clinton left office, according to the Americans. But with help of pro-Israel congressmen, discussions are expected to resume at the beginning of the new year.

AMERICA'S DUPING WORLD RE INSPECTIONS ACCORDING TO BRIT MP

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/11/23/america-s-duping-world-re-inspections-according-to-brit-mp.php

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Radical JINSA Zionists behind US Pre-Emptive Strike Policy:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/12/radical-jinsa-zionists-behind-us-pre-emptive-strike-policy.php

ALexander James

Zionists are Psychopaths who think they have the right to destitute others and steal other peoples homes and make it their own. Zionists put up a Jewish Front just like Freemasons put up a Christians Front and like Binladen puts up an Islamic Front. All these satanic cults are part of the Freemason Brotherhood controlled by the Jesuits. They have fooled everyone, however, the anti-christ will be defeated sooner or later. Zionists are proud of committing genocide and stealing other peoples lands and wealth.

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