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Ariel Sharon: "We control America"

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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:11 pm    Post subject: Ariel Sharon: "We control America"

Subject: Ariel Sharon: "We control America"
From: lexmarkzy@hotmail.com
Date: 9/22/02 2:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Ariel Sharon: 'We control America

Wednesday, October 3, 2001

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM -- An acrimonious argument erupted during the
Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Israeli Prime
Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres during
which Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about
American pressure, we control America."

According the Israeli Hebrew radio Kol Yisrael Wednesday, Peres warned
Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a
cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and
turn the US against us.

At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying
"every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will
do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry
about American pressure on Israel.
We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers
warned Sharon against saying what he said
in public, because "it would cause us a
public relations disaster."


VoteForUSA
reclaiming America
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:26 pm    Post subject: ZIONISTS AND THEIR LACKEYS HAVE HI-JACKED USA POLITICS

Bush IS drumming for invasion of iraq to distract ATTENTION from the sagging US economy:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/22/bush-drumming-iraq-invasion-to-distract-from-failing-economy.php

zionist jews (of jinsa) and their lackeys have basically hi-jacked our government and are driving the usa to invade iraq for israel as more detail about their zionist-driven agenda is included BY scrolling down (after arriving at the following message thread):

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/19/bush-must-say-no-to-israeli-nuclear-blackmail.php

http://www.mediamonitors.net/williamhughes1.html

US TAXPAYERS ARE DUPED TO PAY FOR ISRAEL instead of paying for key programs THAT americans NEED in america (it is time to cut the vast financial aid going to israel which amounts to 10 to 15 million us taxpayer dollars a day):

http://itszone.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/22/americans-must-pay-for-israel.php

check out the following article about the pro-israel lobby that controls politics in the usa and influences american politicians to act in the interest of israel and not america in the middle east at least:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/21/why-does-the-times-bury-deal-made-on-israel.php

ARIEL SHARON: "WE (THE JEWISH PEOPLE) CONTROL AMERICA, AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT":

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/23/ariel-sharon-we-control-america.php

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/08/16/zionist-leaders-wanting-to-attack-iraq-for-israel.php

It is incredible how I just saw zionist extremist lawyer alan dershowitz on sixty minutes advocating for torture in the usa (like his beloved israel brutally does TO the palestinians who are simply fighting to recover their stolen land). instead of US adopting brutal TORTURE tactics that israel engages in, we need to cut financial aid to israel (in order to greatly reduce the risk of experiencing further domestic terror in the us) because the 10 to
15 million us taxpayer dollars flowing to israel each day (via a pro-israel lobby-corrupted and zionist-occupied us congress) is used by the israelis TO brutally oppress the palestinian people which in turn contributes to the arab/moslem world's hatred of us which in turn contributed to the tragic domestic terror of 9/11.

CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVE VIA THE LINKS FOUND AT:

WWW.WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM

Oil is also a key issue as to why Bush wants to invade (for his oil business cronies) as why should american soldiers have to potenially die for such?:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/15/in-iraqi-war-scenario-oil-is-key-issue.php


ISRAEL TO PICK BOMBING TARGETS IN IRAQ FOR USA AND BRITAIN:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/22/senators-warn-attack-on-iraq-could-trigger-arab-israeli-war.php

US CRITICIZES ISRAEL FOR SIEGE:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/22/u-s-criticizes-israelis-for-siege.php

http://www.independent.co.uk/search.jsp?keywords=FISK&submit=Go

also, the weapons inspector lied on wolf blitzer's cnn program just now when he said that the un unscom weapons inspectors did not spy on iraq the last time they were in iraq (for a reality check, i suggest you read the following article by robert fisk which mentions that scott ritter made regular trips to israel to brief them as ritter is now a genuine american patriot in not wanting us to invade iraq but rather to send in weapons inspectors that don't spy on iraq for israel this next time):

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/19/robert-fisk-president-bush-wants-war-not-justice.php

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/index.php

Subj: To Our Employees: We Want To Know....
Date: 9/22/02 2:11:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: "MERRY

I'm sending this out via FAXes and email to government employees , the White House (where my main employee is really embarrassing me), and the media. After all, these people in the senate, etc. are glorified gophers-- let's whip them into shape! Betty has me all fired up and i'm still on vacation dammit! m.

To: The American Seat of Government
This is directed to American Patriots ONLY---NOT Dual Loyalists-- are there
any there?

Fr: America First and Only Citizen

Dear Government Employee:

This country needs American Patriots now more than ever to let it be known that the people of this country do not approve of Israeli-style "pre-emptive strikes" against third world countries like Iraq which are barely hanging on to civilized life as it is thanks to past US governments interfering with their sovereignty on behalf of the rogue state of Israel. Iraq is not a threat to the United States.

The real and imminent threat to the United States is the state of Israel. Bent on the rape and theft of Palestine, Israel has pulled out all the stoppers in its efforts to subdue the Arab world by any means-- legal or not. The state of Israel is the real source of terrorism in the region and the source of this planet's grief. It alone refuses to co-operate with its neighbors in the region, the United Nations or the wishes of the World Community in
any way. Does Israel comply with UN resolutions? No. Why? Why not, people? This is YOUR JOB---the business of AMERICAN INTERESTS, ---NOT Israel's. America is your country----if it isn't, GET OUT, we don't want you!

Where are our leaders? Why are you not demanding to know why Israel will not comply with rules the rest of the world must comply with? Are rules just for the rest of us? Why do we continue to pretend it is the Arab peoples who are the problem?

Our Congress may as well be an official arm of the Israeli government as it votes to support the interests of Israel First over the interests of America First----our country, yours and mine. Why is that? Where is OUR government? Have you been bought off ? Do you now act as an official arm of the Israeli government?---because that's what it looks like. It looks that way out here to those of us who work and sweat to send money ---to Israel. It is
scandalous what our children pay in taxes to support that ERSATZ ROGUE STATE which is upsetting the peace of the whole world ---and with your support!! And in our name!

Now we find ourselves facing the need to sacrifice our children, too. American Body Bags coming home from an unrighteous and immoral war on behalf of Israel---a foreign country---a rogue state. Americans say NO MORE MURDER FOR ISRAEL. NO AMERICAN BODY BAGS FOR ISRAEL. NO MORE AID TO ISRAEL TO SUPPORT THEIR RAPE OF THE MIDDLE EAST.

No more entangling foreign alliances. Stand up and be counted FOR AMERICA, people! You are a part of history. Show some backbone. Stop being AFRAID! Don't be bystanders at the death of your country. If you can't do your job, get out here in the REAL world and work for a living and stop cashing the checks we give to you to do our business. *

M. L. Boysen

Click here: AARP Webplace | Advocacy Center -- this is the Armed Forces Commitee list.

Senator Carl Levin is head of the Armed Forces Committee. Phone 313-226-6020, fax. 313-266-6948. As a US citizen, you can call him about this issue.

the AARP list for finding your Senators and reps. You'll find their local and Washington addresses and phone numbers...
http://congress.nw.dc.us/aarp/home/

CALLING, not e-mailing your Reps and Senators is more effective. Be ready to state who you're against or for something...
The impending war with IRAQ; (and other issues) is most important. A phone call with a real, live person, about something really 'hooks their attention', which is what we want. E-mail isn't as effective

Do what you can. I think if we go into war with Iraq, we are in real trouble...

United Nations: ''It would be unwise to attack Iraq, given the current
circumstances of what's happening in the Middle East.'' -- Secretary-General Kofi Annan

Subj: BBC film available
Date: 9/22/02 7:33:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: JGidusko@cfl.rr.com

[This email is sent to crewmembers, families, and
supporters of Liberty. / JEG]
-------------------------------------------------

On 8 June 1967, Israel attacked the USS Liberty, a
spy ship cruising off the Sinai coast. Israel has
always claimed it was a tragic accident based on
mistaken identification of the ship. The US govern-
ment publicly accepted this explanation.

Yet for 35 years, the Liberty's survivors have insisted that the attack was intentional.

The new BBC film, "Dead in the Water" reveals the truth
behind the seemingly inexplicable incident -- and how
nuclear war in the Middle East was averted only at the
last minute.

The film which has aired in England and Europe is
NOW AVAILABLE in the U.S!

Price $25.00 plus $ 4.85 S/H. Total: $29.85

The video, "Dead in the Water" can be ordered with
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AMAZON.COM.

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Subj: BBC "Dead in the Water" Wins Honors..


Date: 9/22/02 12:28:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time

Subj:Dead in the Water HONORS!
Date:9/21/02 11:45:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:nord@famvid.com


>The USS Liberty film by Christopher Mitchell, which is being shown at the
>prestigious Vancouver International Film Festival, has been short-listed
>along with a dozen other films for the National Film Board juried award
>for Best Documentary Feature at VIFF.

In other words, the Liberty film now stands almost alone with a select few
being considered for the Best Documentary Feature!

>The other films in competition are:

> - Black Box Germany (Germany)
> - Epoca: The Making of History (Switzerland)
> - Faith, Love and Charity (Denmark)
> - Fix: The Story of an Addicted City (Canada)
> - Gambling, Gods and LSD (Canada)
> - Gaza Strip (USA)
> - Mama Benz and the Taste of Money (The Netherlands)
> - On the Seven Seas (Austria)
> - Reconstruction (USA/Romania)
> - Spellbound (USA)
> - Stealing the Fire (USA)
> - Thomas Pynchon: A Journey into the Mind of [p.]
> (Germany/Switzerland)

A complete list of events and films at the festival can be found at the
VIFF web site at: http://www.viff.org/viff02/index.html

>In addition to the write-up on the film on page 161 of the program,
>Dead in the Water is also mentioned in the festival introduction on page 3
>of the program and again on page 155 in the introduction to the special
>documentary series entitled "Holding History Accountable."

more about bbc's "dead in the water" documentary (about the intentional and brutal israeli attack on the uss liberty) is mentioned at the following message board...

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/10/nsa-documents-reveal-israeli-uss-liberty-attack-deliberate.php



now zionist jews and their lackeys in the us government are driving us to war in iraq:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/18/jewish-jinsa-driving-us-invasion-of-iraq.php

the following conveys the threat to peace that israeli nukes pose:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/19/bush-must-say-no-to-israeli-nuclear-blackmail.php

Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff under Ronald
Reagan said this:

"I've never seen a President -- I don't care who he is -- stand up to them
[the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want.
The Israelis know what is going on all the time. If the American people
understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would
rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on."

http://www.ussliberty.org/link.txt

HTTP://WWW.LIBERTY.ORG

35 While a guest on ABC's Face the Nation, William Fulbright - US Senator and
Chairman of the US Foreign Relations committee - said this before a national
television audience:

"Israel controls the United States Senate. We should be more concerned about
the United States' interests." 36
And US religious leader Billy Graham and President Richard Nixon once had
the following exchange, which was caught on tape:

GRAHAM: The Jewish stranglehold on the media has got to be broken or this
country's going down the drain".
NIXON: "You believe that?"
GRAHAM: "Yes, sir."
NIXON: "Oh boy. So do I. I can't ever say that but I do believe it" 38
An Israeli journalist named Ari Shavit, lamenting the harsh treatments that
his government dishes out to the Palestinians, made the following
observation in Ha'aretz, a leading Israeli journal:

" We believe with absolute certitude that now, with the White House and
Senate in our hands along with the Pentagon and the New York Times, the
lives [of Arabs] do not count as much as our own. Their blood does not count
as much as our blood. We believe with absolute certitude that now, when we
have AIPAC [the Israel lobby] and [Edgar] Bronfman and the Anti-Defamation
League, , we truly have the right to tell 400,000 people that in eight hours
they must flee from their homes. And that we have the right to rain bombs on
their villages and towns and populated areas. That we have the right to kill
without any guilt." 42 (emphasis added)
In 1989, the Israelis once again succeeded in framing enemy Arabs in order
to enrage America. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrosvky became so
disgusted with the criminal behavior of his own government that he defected
from the Mossad and tried to warn America of just how evil and dangerous
they were. Ostrovsky revealed exactly how the Israelis framed Libya for the
bombing of a German night club which killed American servicemen. 29 It was
this frame up job that caused President Reagan to bomb Libya, killing the 4
year old daughter of Libyan leader Muamar Qadaffi. France refused to allow
US bombers to fly over their air space and bomb Libya because French
intelligence knew that Libya was unjustly framed by the Israelis. Among some
of Ostrovosky's other amazing revelations are: that the Mossad often uses
Arab agents to carry out missions, that Israeli agents are skilled at
impersonating Arabs, that Mossad had a plan to turn American public opinion
against Iraq, and that wealthy Zionists in America are often called upon to
help carry out Mossad missions. Ostrovsky, whose tell all book, By Way of
Deception, infuriated the Mossad and made him the target of numerous death
threats:

http://www.mediamonitors.net/gillespie1.html

The following letter by former U.S. Attorney General
Ramsey Clark has been sent to all members of the UN
Security Council, with copies to the UN General Assembly.
Please circulate.

September 20, 2002

Secretary General Kofi Annan
United Nations New York, NY

Dear Secretary General Annan,

George Bush will invade Iraq unless restrained by the
United Nations. Other international organizations--
including the European Union, the African Union, the OAS,
the Arab League, stalwart nations courageous enough to
speak out against superpower aggression, international
peace movements, political leadership, and public opinion
within the United States--must do their part for peace. If
the United Nations, above all, fails to oppose a U.S.
invasion of Iraq, it will forfeit its honor, integrity and
raison d' etre.

A military attack on Iraq is obviously criminal;
completely inconsistent with urgent needs of the Peoples
of the United Nations; unjustifiable on any legal or moral
ground; irrational in light of the known facts; out of
proportion to other existing threats of war and violence;
and a dangerous adventure risking continuing conflict
throughout the region and far beyond for years to come.
The most careful analysis must be made as to why the world
is subjected to such threats of violence by its only
superpower, which could so safely and importantly lead us
on the road to peace, and how the UN can avoid the human
tragedy of yet another major assault on Iraq and the
powerful stimulus for retaliatory terrorism it would
create.

1. President George Bush Came to Office Determined to
Attack Iraq and Change its Government.

George Bush is moving apace to make his war unstoppable
and soon. Having stated last Friday that he did not
believe Iraq would accept UN inspectors, he responded to
Iraq's prompt, unconditional acceptance by calling any
reliance on it a false hope and promising to attack Iraq
alone if the UN does not act. He is obsessed with the
desire to wage war against Iraq and install his surrogates
to govern Iraq by force. Days after the most bellicose
address ever made before the United Nations--an
unprecedented assault on the Charter of the United
Nations, the rule of law and the quest for peace--the U.S.
announced it was changing its stated targets in Iraq over
the past eleven years, from retaliation for threats and
attacks on U.S. aircraft which were illegally invading
Iraq's airspace on a daily basis. How serious could those
threats and attacks have been if no U.S. aircraft was ever
hit? Yet hundreds of people were killed in Iraq by U.S.
rockets and bombs, and not just in the so called no fly
zone, but in Baghdad itself. Now the U.S. proclaims its
intentions to destroy major military facilities in Iraq in
preparation for its invasion, a clear promise of
aggression now. Every day there are threats and more
propaganda is unleashed to overcome resistance to George
Bush's rush to war. The acceleration will continue until
the tanks roll, unless nonviolent persuasion prevails.

2. George Bush Is Leading the United States and Taking the
UN and All Nations Toward a Lawless World of Endless Wars.


George Bush in his War on Terrorism has asserted his
right to attack any country, organization, or people
first, without warning in his sole discretion. He and
members of his administration have proclaimed the old
restraints that law sought to impose on aggression by
governments and repression of their people, no longer
consistent with national security. Terrorism is such a
danger, they say, that necessity compels the U.S. to
strike first to destroy the potential for terrorist acts
from abroad and to make arbitrary arrests, detentions,
interrogations, controls and treatment of people abroad
and within the U.S. Law has become the enemy of public
safety. Necessity is the argument of tyrants. Necessity
never makes a good bargain.

Heinrich Himmler, who instructed the Nazi Gestapo Shoot
first, ask questions later, and I will protect you, is
vindicated by George Bush. Like the Germany described by
Jorge Luis Borges in Deutsches Requiem, George Bush has
now proffered (the world) violence and faith in the
sword, as Nazi Germany did. And as Borges wrote, it did
not matter to faith in the sword that Germany was
defeated. What matters is that violence ... now rules.
Two generations of Germans have rejected that faith. Their
perseverance in the pursuit of peace will earn the respect
of succeeding generations everywhere.

The Peoples of the United Nations are threatened with the
end of international law and protection for human rights
by George Bush's war on terrorism and determination to
invade Iraq.

Since George Bush proclaimed his "war on terrorism," other
countries have claimed the right to strike first. India
and Pakistan brought the earth and their own people closer
to nuclear conflict than at any time since October 1962 as
a direct consequence of claims by the U.S. of the
unrestricted right to pursue and kill terrorists, or
attack nations protecting them, based on a unilateral
decision without consulting the United Nations, a trial,
or revealing any clear factual basis for claiming its
targets are terrorists and confined to them.

There is already a near epidemic of nations proclaiming
the right to attack other nations or intensify violations
of human rights of their own people on the basis of George
Bush's assertions of power in the war against terrorism.
Mary Robinson, in her quietly courageous statements as her
term as UN High Commissioner for Human Rights ended, has
spoken of the ripple effect U.S. claims of right to
strike first and suspend fundamental human rights
protection is having.

On September 11, 2002, Colombia, whose new administration
is strongly supported by the U.S.,claimed new authority
to arrest suspects without warrants and declare zones
under military control, including new powers, which
also make it easier to wiretap phones and limit
foreigners access to conflict zones... allow security
agents to enter your house or office without a warrant at
any time of day because they think you're suspicious.
These additional threats to human rights follow
Post-September 11 emergency plans to set up a network of
a million informants in a nation of forty million. See,
New York Times, September 12, 2002, p. A7.

3. The United States, Not Iraq, Is the Greatest Single
Threat to the Independence and Purpose of the United
Nations.

President Bush's claim that Iraq is a threat justifying
war is false. Eighty percent of Iraq's military capacity
was destroyed in 1991 according to the Pentagon. Ninety
percent of materials and equipment required to manufacture
weapons of mass destruction was destroyed by UN inspectors
during more than eight years of inspections. Iraq was
powerful, compared to most of its neighbors, in 1990.
Today it is weak. One infant out of four born live in Iraq
weighs less than 2 kilos, promising short lives, illness
and impaired development. In 1989, fewer than one in
twenty infants born live weighed less than two kilos. Any
threat to peace Iraq might become is remote, far less than
that of many other nations and groups and cannot justify a
violent assault. An attack on Iraq will make attacks in
retaliation against the U.S. and governments which support
its actions far more probable for years to come.

George Bush proclaims Iraq a threat to the authority of
the United Nations while U.S.-coerced UN sanctions
continue to cause the death rate of the Iraqi people to
increase. Deaths caused by sanctions have been at
genocidal levels for twelve years. Iraq can only plead
helplessly for an end to this crime against its people.
The UN role in the sanctions against Iraq compromise and
stain the UN's integrity and honor. This makes it all the
more important for the UN now to resist this war.

Inspections were used as an excuse to continue sanctions
for eight years while thousands of Iraqi children and
elderly died each month. Iraq is the victim of criminal
sanctions that should have been lifted in 1991. For every
person killed by terrorist acts in the U.S. on 9/11, five
hundred people have died in Iraq from sanctions.

It is the U.S. that threatens not merely the authority of
the United Nations, but its independence, integrity and
hope for effectiveness. The U.S. pays UN dues if, when and
in the amount it chooses. It coerces votes of members. It
coerces choices of personnel on the Secretariat. It
rejoined UNESCO to gain temporary favor after 18 years of
opposition to its very purposes. It places spies in UN
inspection teams.

The U.S. has renounced treaties controlling nuclear
weapons and their proliferation, voted against the
protocol enabling enforcement of the Biological Weapons
Convention, rejected the treaty banning land mines,
endeavored to prevent its creation and since to cripple
the International Criminal Court, and frustrated the
Convention on the Child and the prohibition against using
children in war. The U.S. has opposed virtually every
other international effort to control and limit war,
protect the environment, reduce poverty and protect
health.

George Bush cites two invasions of other countries by Iraq
during the last 22 years. He ignores the many scores of
U.S. invasions and assaults on other countries in Africa,
Asia, and the Americas during the last 220 years, and the
permanent seizure of lands from Native Americans and other
nations--lands like Florida, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico,
California, and Puerto Rico, among others, seized by force
and threat.

In the same last 22 years the U.S. has invaded, or
assaulted Grenada, Nicaragua, Libya, Panama, Haiti,
Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and others
directly, while supporting assaults and invasions
elsewhere in Europe, Asia, Africa, and the Americas.

It is healthy to remember that the U.S. invaded and
occupied little Grenada in 1983 after a year of threats,
killing hundreds of civilians and destroying its small
mental hospital, where many patients died. In a surprise
attack on the sleeping and defenseless cities of Tripoli
and Benghazi in April 1986, the U.S. killed hundreds of
civilians and damaged four foreign embassies. It launched
21 Tomahawk cruise missiles against the El Shifa
pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum in August 1998,
destroying the source of half the medicines available to
the people of Sudan. For years it has armed forces in
Uganda and southern Sudan fighting the government of
Sudan. The U.S. has bombed Iraq on hundreds of occasions
since the Gulf War, including this week, killing hundreds
of people without a casualty or damage to an attacking
plane.

4. Why Has George Bush Decided The U.S. Must Attack Iraq
Now?

There is no rational basis to believe Iraq is a threat
to the United States, or any other country. The reason to
attack Iraq must be found elsewhere.

As governor of Texas, George Bush presided over scores of
executions, more than any governor in the United States
since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976 (after a
hiatus from 1967). He revealed the same zeal he has shown
for "regime change" for Iraq when he oversaw the
executions of minors, women, retarded persons and aliens
whose rights under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic
Relations of notification of their arrest to a foreign
mission of their nationality were violated. The Supreme
Court of the U.S. held that executions of a mentally
retarded person constitute cruel and unusual punishment in
violation of the U.S. Constitution. George Bush addresses
the United Nations with these same values and willfulness.

His motives may include to save a failing Presidency which
has converted a healthy economy and treasury surplus into
multi-trillion dollar losses; to fulfill the dream, which
will become a nightmare, of a new world order to serve
special interests in the U.S.; to settle a family grudge
against Iraq; to weaken the Arab nation, one people at a
time; to strike a Muslim nation to weaken Islam; to
protect Israel, or make its position more dominant in the
region; to secure control of Iraq's oil to enrich U.S.
interests, further dominate oil in the region and control
oil prices. Aggression against Iraq for any of these
purposes is criminal and a violation of a great many
international conventions and laws including the General
Assembly Resolution on the Definition of Aggression of
December 14, 1974.

Prior regime changes by the U.S. brought to power among a
long list of tyrants, such leaders as the Shah of Iran,
Mobutu in the Congo, Pinochet in Chile, all replacing
democratically elected heads of government.

5. A Rational Policy Intended to Reduce the Threat
of Weapons of Mass Destruction in The Middle East
Must Include Israel.

A UN or U.S. policy of selecting enemies of the U.S. for
attack is criminal and can only heighten hatred, division,
terrorism and lead to war. The U.S. gives
Israel far more aid per capita than the total per capita
income of sub Sahara Africans from all sources.
U.S.-coerced sanctions have reduced per capita income for
the people of Iraq by 75% since 1989. Per capita income in
Israel over the past decade has been approximately 12
times the per capita income of Palestinians.

Israel increased its decades-long attacks on the
Palestinian people, using George Bush's proclamation of
war on terrorism as an excuse, to indiscriminately destroy
cities and towns in the West Bank and Gaza and seize more
land in violation of international law and repeated
Security Council and General Assembly resolutions.

Israel has a stockpile of hundreds of nuclear warheads
derived from the United States, sophisticated rockets
capable of accurate delivery at distances of several
thousand kilometers, and contracts with the U.S. for joint
development of more sophisticated rocketry and other arms
with the U.S.

Possession of weapons of mass destruction by a single
nation in a region with a history of hostility promotes a
race for proliferation and war. The UN must act to reduce
and eliminate all weapons of mass destruction, not submit
to demands to punish areas of evil and enemies of the
superpower that possesses the majority of all such weapons
and capacity for their delivery.

Israel has violated and ignored more UN Resolutions for
forty years than any other nation. It has done so with
impunity.

The violation of Security Council resolutions cannot be
the basis for a UN-approved assault on any nation, or
people, in a time of peace, or the absence of a threat of
imminent attack, but comparable efforts to enforce
Security Council resolutions must be made against all
nations who violate them.

6. The Choice Is War Or Peace.

The UN and the U.S. must seek peace, not war. An attack on
Iraq may open a Pandora's box that will condemn the world
to decades of spreading violence. Peace is not only
possible; it is essential, considering the heights to
which science and technology have raised the human art of
planetary and self-destruction.

If George Bush is permitted to attack Iraq with or without
the approval of the UN, he will become Public Enemy Number
One--and the UN itself worse than useless, an accomplice
in the wars it was created to end. The Peoples of the
World then will have to find some way to begin again if
they hope to end the scourge of war.


This is a defining moment for the United Nations. Will it
stand strong, independent and true to its Charter,
international law and the reasons for its being, or will
it submit to the coercion of a superpower leading us
toward a lawless world and condone war against the cradle
of civilization.

Do not let this happen.

Sincerely,

Ramsey Clark
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:42 pm    Post subject: ARIEL SHARON SHOULD BE IN DOCK OF THE HAGUE WITH MILOSEVIC

http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=54872

http://www.independent.co.uk/search.jsp?keywords=HOBEIKA&submit=Go
Guest
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:52 pm    Post subject: HOW ISRAELI TERRORISM AND TREASON CAUSED THE 9/11/01 ATTACK

I DON'T SUPPORT THE RACISM THAT HE HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF, BUT EVERY PATRIOTIC AMERICAN SHOULD AT LEAST READ THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE (AS MOST OF IT, IF NOT ALL, SEEMS PLAUSIBLE AND IS VERY CONCERNING):

http://www.davidduke.com/writings/howisraeliterror.shtml


OF COURSE THE ZIONIST SPINNERS WILL TRY TO ATTACK THE MESSENGER (WHICH IS A TYPICAL PROPAGANDIST TACTIC), BUT LET'S SEE HOW MUCH THEY ATTACK THE MESSAGE...
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 8:37 pm    Post subject:

Quote:
BUT EVERY PATRIOTIC AMERICAN SHOULD AT LEAST READ THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE (AS MOST OF IT, IF NOT ALL, SEEMS PLAUSIBLE AND IS VERY CONCERNING):



I choose not to and thus "must" become a unpatriotic American.

So mote it be.
Guest
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 9:47 pm    Post subject:

What is it with this Duke guy that causes fuss amongst you Yank cousins?

I must admit I ve seen that post before, but never bothered to do any research on the guy.

Apart from I know he took over the running of the KKK over there, not an orginisation I would want to read of anyway, but are then not accecpted as a political grouping over there now with no violence involved anymore, or so I read from quite a few of the supposed intelligent postsers on other boards from a lot of church going born again christians in the south.

Surely they cannot be wrong can they?

Jeff, take that with a dollop of sarcasm mate, but seriously I have engaged with an awful lot of what I would class as normal people who originate from the south of your great nation who converse sensibly then go onto mention the KKK and how much they have changed for the better now and how they are respected in some quarters.

I tend to classify folk from that point on though.
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 10:33 pm    Post subject:

Quote:
Jeff, take that with a dollop of sarcasm mate, but seriously I have engaged with an awful lot of what I would class as normal people who originate from the south of your great nation who converse sensibly then go onto mention the KKK and how much they have changed for the better now and how they are respected in some quarters.

I tend to classify folk from that point on though.


Ahh, the War of Northern Agression, the Second American Revolution, War Between the States and the North's Reconstruction.

My views on this are as radical, true and correct that Davis Dukes would rather shine Jesse Jackson's shoes than admit they are true. And not a thing would be mentioned on slavery (which is wrong). Unfortunately Anglo Thug would bannish me for extreme threadjacking if I attempted.
Dukes, IMO is still a closet racist and anybody who tells me that patriotic Americans need to read something tells me that the message is suspect. My credentials as a conquered unreconstructed US Southerner demand it. His rubbish is the reason you made the statement "converse sensibly then go onto mention the KKK and how much they have changed for the better now and how they are respected in some quarters.". I don't take offense of it but the truth gets sidetracked and ignored.
Slavery was doomed but the US Constitution died in 1861 by ignoble means.
Guest
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 11:07 pm    Post subject:

His rubbish is the reason you made the statement "converse sensibly then go onto mention the KKK and how much they have changed for the better now and how they are respected in some quarters.". I don't take offense of it but the truth gets sidetracked and ignored.
Slavery was doomed but the US Constitution died in 1861 by ignoble means.

No reason at all dear boy, my reason for the statement was more along the lines, that I am surprised to be talking sensiblly with some folk on newsgroups only to be suddenly confronted with their racist views hidden in respectability, I then switch off to them and avoid them.

The thought that one minute im having a sensible discussion with someone and the next they are apologists for the KKK or any like orginisation uspets me somewhat.

I think racists of any name or tribe shoud be shown the error of their ways and im with some of your more radical peoples views on what I would like to see done with both your kkk and our own National front people over here, bit of a liberal me sometimes but dont think public burning at the stake is good enough for em.

Big believer in it takes all sorts, white, black, brown, yellow, catholic, protestant, bhuddist,muslim, jew...None of it matters to me. Although im not a big Isreali fan at the moment, but i dont differentiate their religions, old Aziz in Iraq is a Christian did you know, hes still an Iraqi to me though.

Theres no part in our world for racists of any sort, pipedream but I believe in fairies too so one day there wont be any.
Guest
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 11:28 pm    Post subject: israeli treachery against the us and treason...

just as i suspected with the posting of duke's article above, the zionist spinners that subsequently response posted have only attacked the messenger but not the message... like i also mentioned above, the message seems very plausible for the most part if not all.. especially the mention of israeli treachery against the us and continued brutal oppression of the palestinian people.. here is the article again:

http://www.davidduke.com/writings/howisraeliterror.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2255902.stm
Guest
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 11:46 pm    Post subject: john pilger's film on brutal israeli occupation

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/23/john-pilger-why-my-film-is-under-fire.php

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/23/lawmakers-hear-pleas-against-war.php
 

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