| Author | Message | | Guest | | Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 2:34 pm Post subject: |
| Very good, find one on the other side of the coin, now though I repeat, what in the aforementioned post is incorrect? And please be so kind if you can to list the members financed by Aipac and maybe a list of others supported by Arabic money?
Its your country, you should know this, would love to see the comparative side of each listing. | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 10:18 pm Post subject: AIPAC's ownership of USA |
| Despite AIPAC's control of Congress through PAC contributions, Jonathan Pollard still sleeps with the brothers.
Any any large Israeli malfeasance that breaks the US media curtain of protection of all things Israeli would require US re-examination and notariety. But the US will never allow the Jewish state to be destroyed and this is proper.
Birthrates and demagraphics in the Niddle East will settle this issue in time no matter what the US pays. And America will never send troops and die for the Jews ever.
Personally, they deserve each other | | | | FoxtrotAlpha | | Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 8:52 pm Post subject: |
| | Whats AIPAC? | | | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 10:10 pm Post subject: AIPAC = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
| AIPAC is the American Israeli Political Action Committee. It generates trmemdous cash and political support to US political candidates to tow the Israeli party line. Its influence in the beltway (DC) is extraordinary. Very few escape their crosshairs when aroused. Since 1970 it is the reason Wahington has left it's balanced semi-aproval of Israel to first class Israeli ass kissers.
I don't believe there are European equivalents. | | | | *Mutt | | | | Guest | | Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 12:59 pm Post subject: |
| Mutt, was good enough to inform us of that site. But read the whole thing its a very interesting site.
But as Mutt says in other threads Aipac does not give as an official orginisation, more requests its supporters to give individually, that right Mutt?
If your really interested going back a few months there is a copy of a letter to a supporter on this board somewhere which does exactly that and goes on to explain in very antagonistc language why their supporters have a duty to give.
Sort of like a garage sale then but money dont go to the Christmas party. | | | | abbadean | | Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 9:53 pm Post subject: Misinformation |
| It turns out an overwhelming majority of people in the Muslim world, according to a Gallup poll, do not believe the attacks of Sept. 11 were orchestrated by Osama bin Laden, or by Arabs, or by Muslims.
Mass murder has been committed and pictures of the 19 militant Muslim hijackers were printed in the papers. In America, there has never been any doubt about who was ultimately responsible. In the words of President Bush: "The evidence we have gathered points to a person named Osama bin Laden."
But as one of the poll takers explains it, when the president talks, most Moslems simply don't listen. He explains, "People say, 'Yes, you're giving me evidence. But frankly, I don't trust the system. I don't trust the messenger. I don't trust the message. I just don't believe.'"
The Arab/Muslim thinking is not hard for me to believe. Most Muslims follow the faith of a oversexed, epileptic, illiterate, child molester who did not believe he was a prophet, until late in life when convinced by his followers. A faith where rape is almost impossible to prove because it takes the testimony of two women to equal that of a mans. A faith where the few decent peace loving ones are so afraid of their brother Muslims that they do not speak out against the atrocities they commit. I am very sorry to see you fall into one of the misquided. ABBADEAN | | | | Guest | | Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 11:05 pm Post subject: |
| You shoulednt really talk about Geroge Bush like that, its unpatriotic, plus it takes ages to get the spittle off my screen afterwards.
Please refrain, your last paragraph could stop George getting in again if people realise thats how he is. | | | | *mutt | | Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 11:18 pm Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | But as Mutt says in other threads Aipac does not give as an official orginisation, more requests its supporters to give individually, that right Mutt? |
There are also several PACs associated with AIPAC. They can take contributions and donate to candidates.
The same holds true with "the other side". You have to want to do the work to find them though. The names are not always obvious.[/quote] | | | | Guest | | Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2002 12:29 am Post subject: |
| America's war on terrorism began in November 1979 it did not begin in September 2001. This war is over twenty years old and we have waited and prayed for peace for a long time. Folks, it is not working. Our enemy believes you should only negotiate if you are losing. The fact we are trying to reach peace through diplomacy is viewed as a sign of weakness.
After Ayatollah Khomeini seized power in Iran, with the slogan "Death to America" the attacks on Americans soon began. In November 1979, a militant Islamic mob took over the U.S. embassy in Tehran, the Iranian capital, and held 52 Americans hostage for the next 444 days.
The rescue team sent to free those hostages in April 1980 suffered eight fatalities, making them the first of militant Islam's many American casualties.
Others included:
April 1983: 17 dead at the U.S. embassy in Beirut.
October 1983: 241 dead at the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut.
December 1983: five dead at the U.S. embassy in Kuwait.
January 1984: the president of the American University of Beirut killed.
April 1984: 18 dead near a U.S. airbase in Spain.
September 1984: 16 dead at the U.S. embassy in Beirut (again).
December 1984: Two dead on a plane hijacked to Tehran.
June 1985: One dead on a plane hijacked to Beirut.
1995 and 1996 Five in one incident and 19 dead in another in Saudi Arabia.
August 1998 224 dead at the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
October 2000 17 dead on the USS Cole in Yemen.
Simultaneously, the assaults of Arab/Muslim Terrorists took place on U.S. soil:
July 1980: an Iranian dissident killed in the Washington, D.C. area.
August 1983: a leader of the Ahmadiyya sect of Islam killed in Canton, Mich.
August 1984: three Indians killed in a suburb of Tacoma, Wash.
September 1986: a doctor killed in Augusta, Ga.
January 1990: an Egyptian freethinker killed in Tucson, Ariz.
November 1990: a Jewish leader killed in New York.
February 1991: an Egyptian Islamic killed in New York.
January 1993: two CIA staff killed outside agency headquarters in Langley, Va.
February 1993: Six people killed at the World Trade Center.
March 1994: an Orthodox Jewish boy killed on the Brooklyn Bridge.
February 1997: a Danish tourist killed on the Empire State building.
October 1999: 217 passengers killed on an EgyptAir flight near New York City.
In all, 800 persons lost their lives in the course of attacks by militant Islam on Americans before September 2001... more than killed by any other enemy since the Vietnam War. (this listing does not include the dozens more Americans in Israel killed by militant Islamic terrorists.) When are we to realize we have paid the price for freedom over and over again just to come back home after crawling through some rodent and insect infested land... to listen to some misinformed peacenik who want to give the terrorist another chance to make us a target. The true danger to this country is the ones who listen to their rhetoric. Other than killing a terrorist, there is only one course of action that will work. Isolate the terrorist until they are ready to talk, then remove them from their fellow terrorist, continue to isolate them, until they are ready to listen.
For those of you who think the U.S. will not defend the only democracy in the middle east, Israel. Stop smoking that stuff. It has already damage enough of your brains cells
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