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Date: 9/3/02 9:53:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: Jdtmorris
Subj:USS Liberty - Jim Ennes's reply to columnist/commentator Les Kinsolving --
Date:9/3/02 8:27:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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Jim Ennes's reply to columnist/commentator Les Kinsolving --
Dear Mr. Kinsolving:
Are you aware that even the legal counsel to the US Navy Court of Inquiry
has said publicly that the Court of Inquiry was a sham whose conclusions
were dictated by Washington?
The President of the Court of Inquiry and his legal counsel concluded that
the attack was deliberate but reported falsely that it was a tragic
accident because they were ordered by Washington to report falsely and
"officers follow orders" said the Counsel to the Court.
That report can be found in the July 26 issue of Navy Times and in
follow-up issues.
Washington directed that the Court conclude that the attack was a tragic
accident, despite the fact that the Court determined that it was
deliberate. So the Court of Inquiry was a sham.
Of the ten US investigations which you cite, only the fraudulent US Navy
Court of Inquiry bothered to interview survivors. The others either did
not look into deliberateness at all -- examining peripheral issues such as
the adequacy of communications and of command and control -- or were merely
reports to their bosses which summarized the results of the fraudulent
Court of Inquiry Report. So nine of those ten investigations were poisoned
fruit of the poisoned tree, which was the first investigation.
While Judge Cristol has found a few senior officers willing to sign on --
no doubt blindly -- to his opinions, the fact is that the most
knowledgeable senior officers who were most directly involved are on record
saying that the attack was deliberate.
These include former Secretary of State Dean Rusk, former JCS Chairman and
CNO Admiral Tom Moorer, former NSA director General Marshall Carter, former
NSA director Richard Helms, former NSA/CIA director Admiral Bobby Inman,
former NSA Deputy Lou Tordella and many others whose positions made them
privy to facts unknown to the general public or to the less aware senior
officers who have spoken out in support of Judge Cristol's warped
thesis. Admiral McCain's own legal counsel refused to endorse the Court of
Inquiry report when it was first written in 1967. He has joined Admiral
Moorer and a number of other senior officers calling for an investigation
of the attack and its cover-up. Even Clark Clifford, who was instrumental
in helping found the Israeli state and who has always been one of its
strongest supporters, regards the attack as deliberate.
There is a wealth of evidence pointing directly to a deliberate attack,
including numerous reports from intercept operators and analysts who
personally heard or saw transcripts of communications between the attacking
pilots and their headquarters which made abundantly clear the fact that the
pilots and the torpedomen knew they were attacking and killing Americans.
And if all that could be explained, there remains the fact that a large
number of survivors saw the attacking torpedoman machinegun our
firefighters and medical personnel from close range for forty minutes AFTER
examining our clear markings and our American flag from fifty feet
away. As Secretary of State Dean Rusk said so clearly, mistakes involve a
few rounds fired in error; they do not involve prolonged attack that
continues after close-up examination of the target. Only a deliberate
attack can explain the prolonged attempts to sink our life rafts and to
kill medical and firefighting personnel after clearly identifying us from
close range.
I fear you are not open to reexamining your position. These are the facts,
however, and they are widely known.
James Ennes
survivor
For the facts about the USS Liberty, visit:
http://www.ussliberty.com or
http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/
To buy the book go to:
http://www.ussliberty.org/jimsbook.htm
To buy the History Channel's Liberty tape go to:
http://www2.pulsetv.com/st/prodinfo.asp?number=1150&variation=&aitem=1&mitem=1
To view over 100 USS Liberty pictures, visit:
http://www.ussliberty.org/gifs.htm
To hear survivors and top US officials discuss
the attack in their own voices in RealAudio, visit:
http://www.ussliberty.org/voices.htm
To sign our petition go to:
http://www.petitiononline.com/liberty/petition.html
The Cristol dissertation reviewed by Dr. John Borne:
http://www.logogo.net/Cristoldissertation.htm
Remember the USS Liberty (AGTR-5)
Please keep in mind that WorldNetDaily.com is published by Joe Farah who is an ardent Zionist (or Zionist lackey at least), so the following would apparently apply to World Net Daily as well (so it comes as no surprise that Mr. Kinsolving would support the Zionist load of baloney that the treacherous Israeli USS Liberty attack was a case of "friendly fire" which is supported by Judge Jay A. Cristol who also happens to be a Zionist Jew and has no credibility being "objective" in his "evaluation" of the intentional and brutal Israeli attack on the USS Liberty):
Forwarded:
From: "Rasputin" a.seredin@worldnet.att.net
Date: 9/1/02 8:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time
ZIONIST POWER STRUCTURE
IN AMERICA
Now that we have established the ruthless and criminal nature of radical
Zionism, one more lesson needs to be understood before we return to the five
dancing Israelis of 9-11 and other related stories. Even the Zionists
themselves have never denied that they have long exerted great influence in
America. But what we must understand is that the Zionists do not merely
influence United States policy....they dominate it! It is this domination
that enables them to pull off monstrous crimes and then conceal them from
the general public.
The observation that Zionists dominate the American media, government,
academia, and Hollywood has been made by many prominent Americans and is
easily verifiable by public information.
Henry Ford said this:
"If after having elected their man or group, obedience is not rendered to
the Jewish control, then you speedily hear of "scandals" and
"investigations" and "impeachments" for the removal of the disobedient.
Usually a man with a "past" proves the most obedient instrument, but even a
good man can often be tangled up in campaign practices that compromise him.
It has been commonly known that Jewish manipulation of American election
campaigns have been so skillfully handled, that no matter which candidate
was elected, there was ready made a sufficient amount of evidence to
discredit him in case his Jewish masters needed to discredit him." 33
Charles Lindbergh said this:
"Their greatest danger to this country lies in the Jewish ownership and
influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our government.
34
Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff under Ronald
Reagan said this:
"I've never seen a President -- I don't care who he is -- stand up to them
[the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want.
The Israelis know what is going on all the time. If the American people
understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would
rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on."
35
While a guest on ABC's Face the Nation, William Fulbright - US Senator and
Chairman of the US Foreign Relations committee - said this before a national
television audience:
"Israel controls the United States Senate. We should be more concerned about
the United States' interests." 36
Nationally syndicated columnist and former presidential candidate Patrick
Buchanan said:
"The United States Congress is Israeli occupied territory." 37
And US religious leader Billy Graham and President Richard Nixon once had
the following exchange, which was caught on tape:
GRAHAM: The Jewish stranglehold on the media has got to be broken or this
country's going down the drain".
NIXON: "You believe that?"
GRAHAM: "Yes, sir."
NIXON: "Oh boy. So do I. I can't ever say that but I do believe it" 38
But enough of quoting others. Let's look at the facts of Zionist control.
FACT: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, UPN, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Daily News, Time Magazine, Newsweek,
People Magazine, US News and World Report and countless other media and
Hollywood companies all have either a Zionist CEO, a Zionist News Chief, or
are owned by a media conglomerate which has a Zionist CEO. 39 Have you
ever noticed how Hollywood movies always seem to portray Germans and Arabs
as a bigoted fanatics or as terrorists? Now you know why!
FACT: AIPAC, the Israeli lobbying organization, is the most feared lobby in
Washington DC. By their own admission, they are capable of unseating
Congressmen and Senators that do not carry out their requests. The majority
of Congressmen from both political parties receive large donations from
AIPAC. Writing for the Nation Magazine, journalist Michael Massing explains:
"AIPAC is widely regarded as the most powerful foreign-policy lobby in
Washington. Its 60,000 members shower millions of dollars on hundreds of
members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. Newspapers like the New York
Times fear the Jewish lobby organizations as well. "It's very intimidating,"
said a correspondent at another large daily. "The pressure from these groups
is relentless." 40 (emphasis added)
FACT: The Pentagon is under the control of a hard core Zionist named Richard
Perle. The civilian Defense Policy Board actually wields more control over
the military establishment than the Defense Secretary or the generals and
admirals. There are a number of other Zionists who serve on the board
(Kissinger, Cohen, Schlessinger) as well as non-jewish members who have
always supported Israel and the expansion of the "War on Terror". The
notoriously belligerent Perle, nicknamed the "The Prince of Darkness", is
Chairman of the Board. 41
With Perle as Chairman of the Defense Policy Board, Zionist Paul Wolfowitz
as Undersecretary of Defense, and Zionist award winner Douglass Feith as
Undersecretary of Defense Policy, the Zionist Pentagon gang controls 3 of
the top 4 civilian leadership positions of America's armed forces. Careerist
scoundrels like Condoleeza Rice and Donald Rumsfeld are either under their
influence or unwilling to oppose their drive for WW III. The
Perle-Wolfowitz-Feith gang represent a fanatical and warmongering
"government-within-a-government". In league with these Zionist Pentagon
conspirators are jewish Zionist and potential 2004 Presidential candidate,
Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) and his Gentile partner in crime Senator
John McCain (R-AZ).
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/08/16/zionist-leaders-wanting-to-attack-iraq-for-israel.php
An Israeli journalist named Ari Shavit, lamenting the harsh treatments that
his government dishes out to the Palestinians, made the following
observation in Ha'aretz, a leading Israeli journal:
" We believe with absolute certitude that now, with the White House and
Senate in our hands along with the Pentagon and the New York Times, the
lives [of Arabs] do not count as much as our own. Their blood does not count
as much as our blood. We believe with absolute certitude that now, when we
have AIPAC [the Israel lobby] and [Edgar] Bronfman and the Anti-Defamation
League, , we truly have the right to tell 400,000 people that in eight hours
they must flee from their homes. And that we have the right to rain bombs on
their villages and towns and populated areas. That we have the right to kill
without any guilt." 42 (emphasis added)
And this only scratches the surface of Zionist power! With such awesome
power to control and cover up events, is it any wonder why so many of
America's journalists and politicians are afraid to even talk about this
issue? Is it any wonder why former President Bill Clinton would grovel
before a jewish audience and say something as ridiculous as the following
statement:
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the
Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and
die." 43
I could go on and on at much greater length about this subject, but I want
to get back to the dancing Israelis. Have I made my point yet?
Subject: THE ZIONIST WHORE
From: "Rasputin" a.seredin@worldnet.att.net
Date: 9/1/02 8:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <edBc9.46977$Ke2.3328282@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
AMERICA BECOMES THE ZIONIST'S WHORE
We have reviewed how the Zionists used and discarded Germany. Then they used
and discarded Great Britain. After World War II, it was clear that the chief
remaining global power was the United States. Now the USA had never had any
problem with the Arab people, and had no reason to quarrel with the Arabs.
For the Zionists to maintain and expand the support they were receiving from
America, it would benefit them greatly if the Arabs and the mighty US could
somehow become enemies. Could the Zionists possibly stoop so low? Why not?
Look at what they had already pulled off!
http://www.mediamonitors.net/gillespie1.html
Remember that the official motto
of the Mossad (Israeli's intelligence organization) is "by way of deception
thou shalt do war." 26
In 1955, one of these "false flag" operations was publicly exposed for the
world to see. Israeli agents, impersonating Arab terrorists, were caught
staging a series of bombings against American installations in Egypt. 27
When this conspiracy was exposed, it ultimately created such a controversy
that it brought down the Israeli government. The long since forgotten
scandal became known as "the Lavon Affair".
Then again during a 1967 war with the Arabs, Israeli gunboats and fighter
jets deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, an unarmed US communications
ship. 28 Thirty five American sailors were murdered and 170 others injured
in a prolonged Israeli onslaught - carried out in broad daylight and with
the U.S. flag flying prominently. The intent was to kill all of the
Americans and then leave the Egyptians to take the blame. Israel denied that
the attack was deliberate but the chilling stories of the lucky American
survivors clearly contradicts that lie. To this very day, the U.S. Congress
has never investigated the USS Liberty massacre:
http://www.ussliberty.com
In 1989, the Israelis once again succeeded in framing enemy Arabs in order
to enrage America. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrosvky became so
disgusted with the criminal behavior of his own government that he defected
from the Mossad and tried to warn America of just how evil and dangerous
they were. Ostrovsky revealed exactly how the Israelis framed Libya for the
bombing of a German night club which killed American servicemen. 29 It was
this frame up job that caused President Reagan to bomb Libya, killing the 4
year old daughter of Libyan leader Muamar Qadaffi. France refused to allow
US bombers to fly over their air space and bomb Libya because French
intelligence knew that Libya was unjustly framed by the Israelis. Among some
of Ostrovosky's other amazing revelations are: that the Mossad often uses
Arab agents to carry out missions, that Israeli agents are skilled at
impersonating Arabs, that Mossad had a plan to turn American public opinion
against Iraq, and that wealthy Zionists in America are often called upon to
help carry out Mossad missions. Ostrovsky, whose tell all book, By Way of
Deception, infuriated the Mossad and made him the target of numerous death
threats. 30
In 2001, the Washington Times ran a story about a 68 page research paper
issued by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS). The research
was compiled by 60 US Army officers as an attempt to predict the possible
outcomes of deploying a US force to maintain peace between the Israel and
Palestinians. Here's what SAMS had to say about the Israeli military
machine:
"a 500 pound gorilla in Israel. Well armed and trained. Operates in both
Gaza and the West Bank. Known to disregard international law to accomplish
mission" 31
Of Israel's Mossad, the officers issued this warning:
"Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make
it look like a Palestinian Arab act." 32 (emphasis added)
Why does the US, which is trillions of dollars in debt, gives away billons
of taxpayer dollars to a foreign government whose military violates
international laws and whose Mossad is capable of murdering US troops in
order to frame Arabs? Have we lost our minds?
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/index.php
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/08/24/u-s-israel-set-stage-for-two-front-mideast-war.php
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/index.php
Contact your congressional representative to prevent a zionist-driven invasion of Iraq for Israel... why should American soldiers have to die for Israel... Israel's problem is not America's! Just like Vietnam and afterwards seeing our family and friends' names on a stone wall!
http://www.congress.gov
LONDON, England (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell called Sunday for U.N. weapons inspectors to return to Iraq.
He also suggested a debate among the international community is needed over Iraq and downplayed talk about a possible rift within the Bush administration over how to proceed on the issue.
"The president has been clear that he believes weapons inspectors should return," Powell told the BBC in an interview slated for broadcast next Sunday in England, which has been the staunchest U.S. ally over Iraq.
"Iraq has been in violation of many U.N. resolutions for most of the last 11 or so years," Powell said. "And so, as a first step, let's see what the inspectors find. Send them back in. Why are they being kept out?"
Powell's call for a return of U.N. weapons inspectors, who left Iraq in late 1998, appeared to conflict with Vice President Dick Cheney's dismissal of their value.
"The return of inspectors would provide no assurance whatsoever of his compliance," he told a group of war veterans. "On the contrary, there's a great danger that it would provide false comfort."
Instead, Cheney made the case for pre-emptive action, saying, "The risks of inaction are far greater than the risk of action."
Despite his recommendation for their return, Powell acknowledged Sunday that weapons inspections are not foolproof.
"We should not think that the inspections, in and of themselves, should give us the kind of assurance that we can take to the bank," he said.
But the secretary of state has favored amassing international support before any attack on Iraq.
"I think that the world has to be presented with the information, with the intelligence that's available. A debate is needed within the international community so that everybody can make a judgment.
"I think, in the current debate, too much attention has focused on the United States and what debate is taking place within our administration as opposed to attention being focused on the Iraqi regime."
Those last comments apparently alluded to a split within the administration. Powell's voice of caution has not appeared in tune with calls from Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for military action.
The split within the administration is also reflected in the party, which has also presented a fractured front on Iraq.
Sen. Chuck Hagel, a Nebraska Republican, expressed reservations in an interview Saturday with CNN's "Novak, Hunt & Shields."
Tony Blair has been President Bush's staunchest supporter for an attack on Iraq
"If, in fact, we unilaterally invade Iraq with no allies, where does that lead to?" the decorated Vietnam War veteran asked.
"Where does that go? Who governs after Saddam? How do we do it? When do we do it? What is the objective? Have we calibrated the consequences -- unintended consequences?"
He added, "These questions are very important, it seems to me, that the president wants to address -- I hope will address -- before we talk about unilaterally with no allies invading Iraq."
Powell trying to stop the war in iraq:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/01/uss-liberty-included-in-labor-day-pop-quiz-on-middle-e.php
We need to send arms inspectors in Israel instead to catalog our stolen fissile materials and return them to the US. Israelis have proved themselves just completely irresponsible and violent. I mean it is just crazy to bulldoze people's houses and to treat other human beings as less than animals.
(That's right, I wanna see Sharon and his cohorts in the Hague answering up for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Let's reconsider the 1948 UN Res for the formation of Israel. Let's create a competely new democratic state free from human rights abuses and religious zealots.
A resolution created that state of terror, now it's time to uncreate it. I motion to eliminate that state of terror and platform of racism.
http://www.mideastweb.org/3379.htm, Zionism = Racism UN General Assembly Resolution 3379
Introduction In 1975, following a conference in Mexico, the UN General Assembly approved the following resolution, supported by Arab, African and Soviet bloc states, asserting that Zionism is
racism. Logically, this declaration nullified the UN resolutions that had brought about the creation of the State of Israel, and formally, it denied the right of self-determination to the
Jewish people. The resolution was adopted against the background of Israeli economic cooperation (and probably defense cooperation) with the apartheid regime of South Africa.
These ties were maintained in part with an eye to the well-being and safety of the large Jewish community of South Africa. The practical effect of this resolution was to eliminate more or less permanently any residual moral influence of the United Nations on the Jewish Israeli public. It gave great impetus to
the most extreme Zionist politicians who asserted that Israel was completely surrounded by enemies and could never expect any justice from the international community, reminiscent
of German propaganda prior to World War War. The "Zionist is Racism" resolution became the justification for establishment of new settlements in the West Bank and stymied
attempts to further a negotiated solution. In 1991, following the collapse of the apartheid regime in South Africa and of the former Soviet Bloc, and against the background of the war
against Saddam Hussein, this resolution was repealed. However, the same sentiment surfaced again at the Durban conference in South Africa in the summer of 2001.
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, RECALLING its resolution 1904 (XVIII) of 20 November 1963,proclaiming the United Nations Declaration on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, and in
particular its affirmation that "any doctrine of racial differentiation or superiority is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous" and its expression of alarm
at "the manifestations of racial discrimination still in evidence in some areas in the world, some of which are imposed by certain Governments by means of legislative, administrative or
other measures", RECALLING ALSO that, in its resolution 3151 G (XXVIII) of 14 December 1953, the General Assembly condemned, inter alia, the unholy alliance between South African racism
and Zionism, TAKING NOTE of the Declaration of Mexico on the Equality of Women and Their Contribution to Development and Peace 1975, proclaimed by the World Conference of the
International Women's Year, held at Mexico City from 19 June to 2 July 1975, which promulgated the principle that "international co-operation and peace require the achievement of
national liberation and independence, the elimination of colonialism and neo-colonialism, foreign occupation, Zionism, apartheid and racial discrimination in all its forms, as well as the
recognition of the dignity of peoples and their right to self-determination", TAKING NOTE ALSO of resolution 77 (XII) adopted by the Assembly of Heads of State and Government of the Organization of African Unity at its twelfth ordinary session, held at
Kampala from 28 July to 1 August1975, which considered "that the racist regime in occupied Palestine and the racist regime in Zimbabwe and South Africa have a common imperialist
origin, forming a whole and having the same racist structure and being organically linked in their policy aimed at repression of the dignity and integrity of the human being", TAKING NOTE ALSO of the Political Declaration and Strategy to Strengthen International Peace and Security and to Intensify Solidarity and Mutual Assistance among Non-Aligned
Countries, adopted at the Conference of Ministers for Foreign Affairs of Non-Aligned Countries held at Lima from 25 to 30 August 1975, which most severely condemned Zionism as
a threat to world peace and security and called upon all countries to oppose this racist and imperialist ideology, DETERMINES that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_2.html
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/index.php
>Subject: Re: ALERT: US GENERAL TELLS ISRAELIS WILL START BY LATE NOVEMBER
>Date: 9/1/02 10:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>From: Jdtmorris
>Message-id: <20020902012310.21402.00000735@mb-fv.aol.com>
>
>
>At least Colin Powell doesn't appear to be a Zionist-driven hawk and might
>just be the key person needed to knock some sense into Bush in having him not
>pursue such a foolish invasion of Iraq which has the potential to turn the
>entire Middle East into turmoil just because Israel wants it to be Israel and
>the USA against the Arab/Moslem world with such an invasion:
>
>http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/09/01/powell.iraq/index.html
>Please get contact your Congressional representive and demand that the USA
>does not invade Iraq for Israel because the Zionist (pro-Israel( extremists
>want us to:
>http://www.congress.gov
>A Labor Day Pop Quiz on the Middle East:
>
>http://www.mediamonitors.net/jamesjdavid16.html
>ALERT: U.S. general tells Israelis war will start by late November:
>
>http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/47086.htm
>
>http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_2.html
>
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,781646,00.html
>
>http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/index.php
>
>http://www.whatreallyhappened.com | | | | Guest | | Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 6:15 am Post subject: Glenn Oliphant writes to Les Kinsolving |
| Subj: Glenn Oliphant writes to Les Kinsolving
Date: 9/3/02 8:35:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: nord@famvid.com
To: bilcar80@aol.com, tfgruber@yaho.com
CC: lkinsolving@worldnetdaily.com
To Les Kinsolving <c> les@wcbm.com
I just read your article on Worldnet and I am amazed how someone like
yourself can have such vast knowledge about an incident, the attack on the
USS Liberty and yet know nothing about the facts. Do you believe
everything you read? Do you believe everything on the news media? So why
are you so convinced about the intent of the attack on the Liberty unless
someone put you up to saying what you said? It is terrible that the
American public has to put up with outlandish statements by the media that
have no fact. Many of the facts in Judge Cristol's book are half truths
and twisted truths. And yet you believe them word for word. Until you
know all of the facts and find out most of them from the veterans on the
Liberty you should keep your mouth shut. Do all of America a favor and
start telling the truth on your program.
A Navy veteran.
Mail from Glenn Oliphant | | | | Guest | | Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 6:24 am Post subject: Maybe we should attack Israel instead? |
| >Subj: Maybe we should attack Israel instead?
>Date: 8/30/02 10:41:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>From: BGJDAVID@aol.com
>
>
>This is what the United States considers a friend and "ally"? I think if you
>look at all the harm that Israel has caused the U.S. including such things as
>the attack on the USS Liberty (http://www.ussliberty.com), the Jonathan
>Pollards, the loss of the friendship of the Arab nations and other countries
>around the word, the attack on the WTC caused by our one-sided foreign Middle
>East Policy, the $billion of lost
>income tax revenues due to Israeli charities, the theft of our nuclear
>weapons technology, the corruption of our political leaders by the Israeli
>lobby, and of course, the more than $100 billion of foreign aid over the past
>30 years, is proof enough that Israel is the country that the U.S. should be
>considering to attack, not Iraq. What harm has Iraq ever done to America?
>
>The above was written by Brigadier General (ret) James David (who served in
>the Middle East when the USS Liberty was intentionally and brutally attacked
>by Israel). There was a recent article in the Navy Times (included below
>after the Reuters article about Israel selling arms to China which also
>hasn't been covered in the pro-Israel-biased US media) which conveyed that
>the Admiral Isaac Kidd Naval Court of Inquiry into the USS Liberty attack was
>a
>sham and a fraud (in that Admiral Kidd knew that the Israeli attack on the
>USS Liberty was deliberate). Why hasn't this been covered in the
>pro-Israel-biased US media?
>
>Concerns in U.S. about Israel-China arms deals
>
>By Carol Giacomo
>
>WASHINGTON, Aug 30 (Reuters) - China and Russia have faced repeated U.S.
>sanctions for their arms sales, but a largely unheralded player in what
>Washington considers the troubling proliferation game is Israel, one of the
>closest U.S. allies.
>
>The Jewish state, recipient annually of $3 billion in U.S. aid, is second
>only to Russia as a weapons provider to China, U.S. congressional
>investigators say.
>
>Some experts fear sensitive U.S. technology may show up via Israel in systems
>sold by China to Iran and North Korea, which President George W. Bush termed
>"axis of evil" states after the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center
>and the Pentagon.
>
>"Israel ranks second only to Russia as a weapons system provider to China and
>as a conduit for sophisticated military technology, followed by France and
>Germany," according to a recent report by the U.S.-China Security Review
>Commission, a panel established by Congress to examine security and economic
>relations between the two countries.
>
>"Recent upgrades in target acquisition and fire control, probably provided by
>Israeli weapons specialists, have enhanced the capabilities of the older
>guided missile destroyers and frigates" in the Chinese navy's inventory, it
>said.
>
>The commission, which holds hard-line views on China, cited Israel as a
>supplier to Beijing of radar systems, optical and telecommunications
>equipment, drones and flight simulators.
>
>"Israel has established itself as an important exporter of high-technology
>niche weapons containing more sophisticated technology than what is provided
>by Russia," it said.
>
>WORRYING RELATIONSHIP
>
>"Among the people who are aware of this (Israel-China) trade, there is a
>consensus that this is not a healthy relationship," commission chairman
>Richard D'Amato told Reuters. "There is a growing consensus that transfers of
>these technologies is worrisome given the balance of power in the Taiwan
>Straits," he said.
>
>D'Amato referred to the fact that Israel-China cooperation persists even as
>Washington has sold increasingly sophisticated weapons to Taiwan as a defense
>against China.
>
>Beijing considers the island a renegade and has pledged to use force, if
>needed, to achieve eventual reunification.
>
>This creates an ironic possibility: In the event of war, China, with weapons
>supplied or enhanced by Israel that may have been supplied or enhanced by the
>United States, would face Taiwan, armed with U.S.-made jets and other
>military hardware.
>
>In November 2000, China promised not to assist any country in developing
>ballistic missiles that could be used to deliver nuclear weapons and to enact
>strict export-control rules.
>
>But Beijing only just now published the export rules and in the interim, the
>CIA said Chinese firms provided dual-use missile-related items, raw
>materials, and/or assistance to several countries of proliferation concern,
>including Iran, North Korea, and Libya.
>
>Two senior U.S. officials told Reuters there has been little attention given
>to China-Israel arms ties since Bush took office.
>
>Issues that could draw criticism of Israel are sensitive in America, where
>pro-Israel interests wield considerable clout.
>
>"It is a concern when anybody sells the Chinese advanced systems -- and the
>Israeli systems are very advanced -- that we might, at one point, find
>ourselves opposite those systems in the hands of the Chinese," said one
>senior U.S. official.
>
>But, he added, "I'd be more concerned about it if there was more evidence of
>(recent) activity" between Israel and China.
>
>The Washington Times in July said U.S. intelligence identified an
>Israeli-made anti-radar weapon, the unmanned "Harpy" drone, deployed with
>Chinese forces opposite Taiwan.
>
>A U.S. government source confirmed to Reuters that Israel provided the weapon
>to China. He called the transfer "astounding" because it is a key weapon
>that, in China's hands, could impair the effectiveness of U.S. Aegis
>cruisers.
>
>China, a rising economic and military power, has embarked on a major military
>modernization and some U.S. officials and analysts view Beijing as a serious
>potential threat.
>
>BUT DOUBTS PERSIST
>
>Despite the U.S.-China Security Review Commission's concerns, some analysts
>doubt Israel made any significant recent transfers to China.
>
>Two years ago, under U.S. pressure, Israel suspended the sale to Beijing of
>four $250 million-a-copy advanced early warning Phalcon aircraft, similar to
>U.S. AWACS planes.
>
>The proposed deal alarmed the Pentagon and infuriated some members of
>Congress, who threatened to cut U.S. military aid to Israel if the lucrative
>deal went through.
>
>U.S. officials and other knowledgeable sources say Israel was stunned at the
>vehement U.S. reaction and this made Israel even more cautious about future
>deals with China.
>
>The proposed Phalcon deal "involved indigenous Israeli technology and would
>have provided lots of jobs for our defense industries," an Israeli official
>told Reuters.
>
>But it was canceled "because Israel has an understanding with the United
>States that we will not act in a way that will endanger U.S. national
>security interests," he said.
>
>"I think Phalcon was a watershed. It showed the level of our commitment" to
>the United States, said the Israeli official, who spoke on condition of
>anonymity.
>
>Added a senior U.S. official, "Before the Israelis get in another situation
>where they are crosswise with us, they'll think twice about it -- the last
>flap still reverberates."
>
>But D'Amato disagreed. "We still think they are involved in this in a serious
>way," including high-tech intelligence exchanges and a sharing of missile
>technology.
>
>Israel began an arms relationship with China in the Cold War with U.S.
>backing as a means of balancing off the Soviet Union. But the ties have
>increasingly troubled Washington.
>
>Six years ago, U.S. government reports accused Israel of illegally
>transferring U.S. technology from the largely U.S.-funded Lavi fighter plane
>program to China. China's new F-10 fighter jet is said to be nearly identical
>to the Lavi.
>
>Analysts said that in addition to reaping profits and lowering defense
>production costs, Israel believes arms sales to China raises its influence
>with Beijing and gains it vital intelligence about its enemies, with whom
>China does business.
>
>08/30/02 12:17 ET
>
>Subj: Re: Atlanta Journal-Constitution
>Date: 8/30/02 2:08:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>From: BGJDAVID@aol.com
>
>Your wonderful letter was published in today's Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
>BG James J. David
>
>ajc.com | Opinion | Reader opinions
>
>U.S.-Israel ties spark hatred
>
>I agree with a recent letter stating that Jewish lobbying groups played too
>important a role in the 4th Congressional District election ("Diverse views
>important," Aug. 27). The Sharon administration seems to have forgotten the
>Holocaust of World War II and is trying to perpetrate the same outcome on the
>Palestinian populace, even at great cost to the Jewish people. And now Sharon
>wants the United States to attack Iraq for him?
>
>If President Bush were smart, he'd listen to people such as Cynthia McÂKinney
>and a majority of his constituents and tell Sharon to back off, withdraw his
>troops (as promised) to the limits directed by the United States, and let
>Saddam Hussein stew for a bit.
>
>All that our alliance with Israel is getting us is more hatred from the Arab
>populace in the Middle East.
>
>JAMES R. KING
>Brooksville, Fla.
>
>Forwarded:
>
>From a USS LIBERTY survivor of the Israeli massacre of his comrades:
>
>"A. Jay Cristol, the most outspoken critic of the Liberty story, is
>traveling the country hawking his new book
>(http://www.thelibertyincident.com), repeating half-truths, evasions and
>outright distortions about the Liberty, accepting everything the Israelis
>say as gospel while denouncing everything survivors say as untrue, and at
>the same time we have a Captain Ward Boston, a member of the Navy Court of
>Inquiry and the senior legal advisor to the President of the Court saying
>publicly that the Navy Court of Inquiry was a sham and a fraud and that
>even he who signed it and the admiral who presided over it disbelieved
>their own published conclusions. That's powerful stuff, and it is largely
>being ignored in the newsgroups and in the press. And to further support
>it, we have a former CIA Director and a former Judge Advocate General of
>the Navy in the same story declaring the attack deliberate. Why is this
>not getting more attention?"
>
>The Navy Times article is below
>
>---------------------------------------
>From the June 26 2002 issue of Navy Times:
> ------------------------------------------
>
> CONFLICTING COMMENTS REKINDLE LIBERTY DISPUTE
>
> KEY INVESTIGATORS EXPRESS BELIEF THAT ISRAEL
> DELIBERATELY ATTACKED U.S. SHIP
>
> By Bryant Jordan
> Times staff writer
>
>Thirty-five years after Israeli air and naval
>forces attacked a lightly armed U.S. Navy spy ship
>during the Arab-Israeli Six-Day War, the CIA
>director at the time and the legal counsel to the
>Navy's court of inquiry say the attack was
>deliberate.
>
>"It was no accident," former CIA director Richard
>Helms said May 29, bucking that agency's June 13,
>1967, report that indicated the incident could
>have been a mistake.
>
>Retired Navy legal counsel Capt. Ward Boston says
>he and the court's president, the late Rear Adm.
>Isaac "Ike" Kidd, always believed Israeli forces
>knowingly attacked the Liberty.
>
>"I feel the Israelis knew what they were doing.
>They knew they were shooting at a U.S. Navy ship,"
>said Boston, who lives in Coronado, Calif. "That's
>the bottom line. I don't care how they tried to
>get out of it."
>
>The attack killed 34 men and wounded 172 others,
>and sparked a long-running controversy: Did Israel
>knowingly try to sink the American ship or did it
>believe the ship was an Egyptian vessel?
>
>Officially, the Navy exonerated Israel on June 18,
>1967 - 10 days after the attack - when the Navy
>court of inquiry found that available evidence
>indicated the attack was a case of mistaken
>identity.
>
> THE COURT OF INQUIRY
>
>Boston said Kidd told him he believed the attack
>was deliberate and that the Israelis knew the ship
>was American.
>
>That flies in the face of the findings of Kidd's
>court, and also what the author of a new book on
>the Liberty says Kidd told him in interviews in
>the early 1990s.
>
>A. Jay Cristol, a federal judge in Florida and
>retired Navy aviator who also served in the
>service's Judge Advocate General's Corps, is the
>author of the upcoming "The Liberty Incident."
>
>"Kidd told me an entirely different story," said
>Cristol, whose new book is dedicated to Kidd, who
>died in 1999.
>
>Cristol said that during one interview with Kidd
>in December 1990, Kidd related that when he
>brought the court's report to then-Chief of Naval
>Operations Adm. David Lamar McDonald, the CNO
>asked him, "Ike, was it intentional?"
>
>"Ike said, 'No, Admiral,'" Cristol recalled.
>
>But Boston remembers that when Kidd returned from
>Washington, he said officials were not interested
>in hearing the truth.
>
>"In military life, you accept the fact that if
>you're told to shut up, you shut up. We did what
>we were told," Boston said.
>
>He explained that he is willing to talk now
>because "everyone else is shooting their mouth
>off."
>
>Boston said he does not know whether his beliefs
>were shared by the other members of the court,
>Capts. Bert M. Atkinson Jr. and Bernard J. Lauff.
>
>Lauff could not be located for comment. Atkinson
>died in 1999.
>
>But Boston's statements do put him now in the camp
>of retired Adm. Merlin Staring, who as a captain
>and staff legal officer in London was initially
>told to review the court's report.
>
>Staring said June 3 that the report was taken from
>him before he finished his review, but based on
>what he had seen, the evidence did not support the
>contention that the attack was an accident.
>
>Staring concedes he still has not read the entire
>report.
>
>Staring, who went on to become the Navy's top JAG
>officer, is now part of a newly formed Liberty
>Alliance, which includes former CNO and Joint
>Chiefs of Staff chairman Thomas Moorer and two
>Marine Medal of Honor recipients, Gen. Ray Davis
>and Col. Mitchell Paige.
>
>The group wants a full congressional investigation
>into the attack and is lobbying military
>organizations, including the Veterans of Foreign
>Wars and the American Legion, hoping to garner
>support among their members, said Tito Howard, the
>group's executive director.
>
> SURVIVORS ALLEGE CONSPIRACY
>
>Many Liberty survivors and their supporters long
>have maintained that the attack was deliberate and
>that the Kidd report excluded testimony from crew
>members that would have shown that.
>
>Boston recalled that testimony was taken from crew
>members who said the Israelis fired on life rafts
>when they were put into the water.
>
>The court's report includes testimony indicating
>the shooting of the life rafts was incidental,
>occurring when the ship was strafed by Israeli
>jets.
>
>Some allege Israel wanted the spy ship sunk to
>ensure it did not pick up communications showing
>Israel was planning to seize the Golan Heights
>from Syria. Others say it was to prevent Liberty
>from intercepting communications dealing with an
>alleged Israeli massacre of Egyptian POWs in the
>Sinai.
>
>Some Liberty survivors and supporters claim the
>U.S. government covered up the incident to avoid a
>conflict with Israel that could have cost the
>Johnson administration support among Jewish voters
>and supporters. Subsequent administrations and
>Congresses have avoided a thorough airing of the
>incident for the same reasons, they say.
>
>But Cristol says there have been 10 U.S.
>investigations, ranging from the court of inquiry
>and the CIA's report to several conducted by House
>and Senate committees.
>
>Five drew no conclusions regarding Israel,
>according to a list compiled by Cristol, while
>others accepted that it was an accident.
>
>The most recent official look at the incident was
>in 1991, when the House Armed Services
>subcommittee on investigations found no evidence
>to support the Liberty survivors' claim that
>Israel attacked the ship deliberately.
>
> REPORTS AND RECOLLECTIONS
>
>The CIA's report, the earliest of those assembled,
>held open the possibility that the attack was a
>case of mistaken identity - the finding that the
>Kidd court went on to make five days later -
>though it did not present that as a conclusion.
>
>In the June 13, 1967, report, the CIA stated that
>"an overzealous pilot" could have mistaken the
>Liberty for an Egyptian ship, the El Quesir.
>Helms, the former CIA director, declined to
>discuss the incident at length.
>
>"I've done all I can. I don't want to spend the
>rest of my life in court" testifying about the
>incident, he said.
>
>Mike Weeks, a naval aviation writer and amateur
>historian who studied the official Navy
>communications that occurred during and after the
>attack and believes it was an accident, said there
>is more information on the Liberty still
>classified and believes the government should
>release all of it.
>
>"Just put it out there and see how it flows," he
>said. "The bottom line, all this stuff ought to be
>let loose, for heaven's sake."
>
> ------------------
>
>Bryant Jordan is a staff writer for Marine Corps Times.
>
>http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/07/04/31794.html
>
>
>http://www2.pulsetv.com/st/prodinfo.asp?number=1150&variation=&aitem=1&mitem=1
>In addition, an excellent BBC documentary (titled "Dead in the Water"
>recently aired for the first time in the UK which included mention of
>"Operation Cyanide" which was a secret plan as to how Israel was helped by
>the USA in the "Six Day War"). The BBC documentary also mentioned that the
>USA had launched jets (armed with nuclear ordinance with the intention of
>incinerating Cairo) after the USA had learned that the USS Liberty had been
>attacked (as
>these jets were recalled at the last minute after learning that the Israel
>was responsible and not Eygpt), The following is the Web site for "Dead in
>the Water":
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/dead_in_the_water.shtml
>
>Subj: Re: Review
>Date: 8/9/02 10:05:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>From: jim@ussliberty.com
>
>Dear Friends:
>
>A scorching review of A. Jay Cristol's "The Liberty Incident" was on the
>Associated Press news wire August 2, 2002.
>
>The review is reproduced below, but we do not know what newspapers actually
>printed it.
>
>=======================================================
>Friday, August 2, 2002
>`Liberty' attack still a mystery
>
>By DAVID SMYTH
>Associated Press
>
>On June 8, 1967, Israeli warplanes and gunboats almost destroyed but did
>not sink the USS Liberty.
>
>Even after 35 years, it seems nothing can douse the smoldering dispute
>about that attack on the nearly defenseless U.S. intelligence-gathering
>vessel. In fact, The Liberty Incident, by A. Jay Cristol, will probably fan
>the flames of controversy.
>
>Thirty-four Americans were killed and 172 wounded in the attack. At 69
>percent of the crew, it was one of the highest casualty rates ever suffered
>by a U.S. Navy vessel.
>
>The focus of the dispute is: Was the attack accidental or intentional?
>Israel claimed its forces had mistaken the Liberty for an Egyptian
>horse-transport a few miles off the Egyptian coast during the 1967
>Arab-Israeli war, and apologized. The Johnson administration accepted the
>apology and did not formally challenge the explanation.
>
>However, knowledgeable contemporaries have long claimed the attack was
>deliberate. They include, among others, former Secretary of State Dean
>Rusk; former CIA Director Richard Helms; former National Security
>Administration Director Marshall Carter; one-time presidential advisers
>George Ball and Lucius Battle; the Liberty's captain, Cmdr. William
>McGonagle; and surviving crew members.
>
>More recently, Capt. Ward Boston, legal counsel to the 1967 naval court of
>inquiry presided over by Rear Adm. Isaac Kidd, has spoken up. On June 26,
>Boston told a Navy Times reporter he and Kidd believed the Israelis knew
>they were attacking an American ship. The court itself, an internal naval
>review, did not address the matter of Israeli responsibility.
>
>Curiously, Cristol, whose book is devoted wholeheartedly to the "clear
>conclusion" the attack was accidental, there being "no competent evidence
>to the contrary," has dedicated his work to Kidd. And he says Kidd told him
>he always believed the Israeli attack was accidental. Kidd died in 1999, so
>the discrepancy with Boston's statement remains unresolved.
>
>Lt. Cmdr. James Ennes, the Liberty's deck officer during the attack and
>author of the book Assault on the Liberty, says Kidd repeatedly encouraged
>him to challenge claims of an accident. Cristol apparently interviewed very
>few Liberty crew members. He cites no interviews with a dozen who say the
>Liberty's life rafts were machine-gunned by the Israeli gunboats, nor with
>others who say the Liberty was overflown by an Israeli helicopter filled
>with armed men.
>
>Cristol says he was given liberal access to Israeli officials and records,
>thanks to Israeli navy friends. He reports an Israeli reconnaissance plane
>identified the Liberty as an American ship eight hours before the attack
>and Lt. Cmdr. Uri Meretz then specifically identified it as the Liberty. A
>marker representing the ship was placed on the plotting table in the war
>room.
>
>Five hours later - three hours before the attack - the marker was removed,
>and this, it is alleged, led to the mistaken assault.
>
>Cristol dismisses various possible motives for an intentional Israeli
>attack. One was Israel's need to prevent American foreknowledge of its
>impending invasion of Syria's Golan Heights, a move opposed by U.S. policy.
>Another was the desire to cover up a massacre of Egyptian prisoners at El
>Arish, a few miles from the Liberty.
>
>Members of the Liberty Veterans Association have long complained none of
>the U.S. investigations was ever convened to discover whether the attack
>was deliberate. They note that even the initial Navy Court of Inquiry took
>no testimony from the crew about possible Israeli culpability, leaving that
>issue to Congress and the State Department, which ignored the question.
>
>John Borne, in an academic study of the Liberty incident, points out that
>this is the only peacetime attack on a U.S. Navy vessel that did not have a
>formal congressional investigation.
>
>According to the Navy Times, a number of U.S. naval officers are requesting
>a congressional inquiry. Until this demand is met, and until all secret
>U.S. government files are released, the Liberty question will probably
>remain unanswered.
>
>Subj: Iranian paper interviews USS Liberty Attack Survivor Jim Ennes
>Date: 7/31/02 7:52:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>From: JGidusko@cfl.rr.com
>
>[This sent to crewmembers/supporters of Liberty]
>-----------------------------------------------------
>
>(Jim Ennes was interviewed by Ali Jafari of the Iranian
>newspaper Jame Jam. The interview appeared in the
>July 27, 2002 edition of the paper.)
>
> Interview with James Ennes
> THE FORGOTTEN CRISIS
> "Israeli attack on US ship was not accident, says survivor"
>
>On June 8,1967, in the midst of what became known as six day war,
>Israeli aircraft and motor boats brutally attacked an American
>naval vessel ,the USSLiberty ,in the international waters off
>the Sinai peninsula in the Mediterranean sea. The attack lasted
>more than two hours, killing 34 American sailors and wounding
>171 others. Ever since then, with the survivors of the Liberty
>insisting that the attack on Liberty was deliberate and
>premeditated, and the Israelis claiming that it was
>unintentional, the issue has become a recurring source of
>tension between Israel and United States.
>
>Jame Jam newspaper which published the statements of chairman of
>the joint chiefs of staff Admiral Thomas Moorer on October 21,
>2001 has had the opportunity to interview James Ennes who was an
>lieutenant aboard the USS Liberty on the day of attack.
>
>Greeting Mr Ennes, We at Jame Jam newspaper thank you for giving
>us this great opportunity to present your side of the story of
>USS Liberty.
>
>Q: When did you join the USS Liberty and what position
>did you serve on June 8, 1967?
>
>A. I joined the ship in April, 1967. I was a lieutenant and was
>assigned to be the ship's Electronic Materiel Officer,
>responsible for the maintenance and repair of all of the ship's
>electronic equipment. I also stood watches on the bridge as
>Officer of the Deck.
>
>Q: There have been many cases of "friendly fire" and
>misidentification in wartime. unlike other cases,
>attack on USS Liberty has lingered for 35 years and still
>remains unresolved.
>
>Israelis claim that attack on Liberty, was also a case of
>mistaken identity and that they misidentified Liberty for an
>Egyptian horse carrier EL Quseir. One of the reasons that they
>present for their argument, is that, the attacking jets circled
>the ship three times looking for a flag, but no flag was flown.
>Do you agree with that statement?
>
>A: "Friendly fire" is a brief, accidental attack. This was a
>prolonged, carefully coordinated attack. It has been called the
>most carefully planned "accident" in the history of warfare.
>The Israeli account of the attack is untrue. We flew a flag at
>all times, and it stood out clearly displayed in a good breeze.
>Israeli jets circled us thirteen times during the several hours
>before the attack, and during that period we heard their pilots
>informing their headquarters by radio that we were American.
>When the attack started, the attacking jets passed high
>overhead once, then turned 180 degrees and came down the
>centerline firing without any attempt to identify us. Long
>after the attack I was contacted by an Israeli pilot who told me
>that on his first flight over the ship he saw our American flag
>and informed his headquarters that we were American but was
>told to ignore the flag and attack anyway. He refused to do so
>and returned to base where he was arrested. I was told by an
>Israeli in the war room that they knew we were American. I have
>been told by several American intelligence analysts who read or
>in some cases heard the messages between the pilots and their
>headquarters that these messages make it very clear that the
>pilots and their headquarters knew we were American.
>
>Q: You have written a book titled "Assault on Liberty". What are
>some of the most convincing reasons or evidences that you have
>presented in that book, which proves the Israelis knowingly
>attacked Liberty?
>
>A: Among other things, the extensive reconnaissance, the fact
>that the attack continued for 75 minutes and the fact that they
>compiled a totally false account of what happened. After the
>torpedo explosion the torpedo boats examined our name in
>English on the stern and our American flag on the mast from
>less than fifty feet away, and continued to fire from close
>range for another 40 minutes. As US Secretary of State Dean
>Rusk said later, an accident may occur for a few minutes; there
>is no way our very distinctive-looking ship could have been
>fired upon for 75 minutes from close range without it being
>recognized as American.
>
>In the hours after the attack a "consensus report" was written
>reflecting the view of all American intelligence agencies that
>the attack was deliberate. This report was circulated, but was
>withdrawn and cancelled and all copies destroyed because it was
>too embarrassing politically to be allowed to stand.
>
>The rest of the above Iranian (Jame Jam) newspaper article can be accessed
>via the following Web link (why has no pro-Israel-biased US media covered
>this?):
>
>http://ussliberty.org/jamejam.htm | | | | Guest | | | | Guest | | | | Guest | | Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 9:39 am Post subject: Israeli Treachery against the USA |
| I don't support the racism that David Duke has been accused of, but the Israeli treachery against the USA of the Lavon Affair and USS Liberty attack are eloquently and tragically represented in the following article:
http://www.davidduke.com/writings/howisraeliterror.shtml | | | | Guest | | | | Guest | | Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 11:14 am Post subject: NOT JOURNALISTS_ZIONIST PROPAGANDISTS |
| Subject: NOT JOURNALISTS_ZIONIST PROPAGANDISTS
From: libbyroy@hotmail.com (libby)
Date: 9/4/02 6:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <445ce97.0209041746.605b58bb@posting.google.com>
Sept.04/2002
It's important for the American people to know that all those
'American' journalists/talking heads that they see and read in the
Zionist controlled print and electronic mass media are not working for
America's interests. The very fact that they appear on CNN or write
for the Washington Post, for example, conveys the impression in the
minds of Americans that these 'journalists' are loyal Americans who
have America's best interests at heart. They are, in fact, leading
players in a huge deception and manipulation of the American people
that when attached to a cause such as, 'support of Israel', or
'attacking Iraq', is unrelenting in it's intenisty and scope. These
people follow in the footsteps of Goebbels as they uncritically parrot
the official line of their American/Zionist government. Fact is, they
are part of the same ruling elites of mostly Zionists who by now have
a virtual stranglehold on power in America.
And even as I write this, there on CNN's TALKBACK LIVE is Daniel Pipes
of Middle East Forum, propagandizing in favor of a unilateral military
attack on a sovereign nation, Iraq. An act that if committed by any
country other than America, would be considered a war crime and
justification for America to go to war against the invading country.
The following is an excerpt from the foreword to Aldous Huxley's BRAVE
NEW WORLD.
=============
begin excerpt
=============
The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by
doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is the truth, but
still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth.
By simply not mentioning certain subjects, by lowering what Mr.
Churchill calls an 'iron curtain' between the masses and such facts or
arguments as the local political bosses regard as undesirable,
totalitarian propagandists have influenced [public] opinion much more
effectively than they could have done by the most eloquent
denunciations, the most compelling of logical rebuttals.
===========
end excerpt
===========
In plain English, propagandists don't necessarily need to lie to the
mass audience to control them. By not disclosing critical
facts/information, they ensure that no debate will ever take place on
these critical issues. This omitting of critical facts/information is
one of the very tactics used by CNN and the rest of the Zionist mass
media in America. There are many examples of this tactic and one that
comes to mind is the issue of Israel's weapons of mass
destruction(WMD's). The Zionist mass media in America does not discuss
this at all. They do not want public debate on this issue. One of the
reasons being, of course, that America's great 'ally' Israel stole
it's nuclear weapons program from America. Another issue that the
Zionists keep hidden from Americans is the $3,000,000,000 that goes to
Israel each year, payback from the 'Congress of traitors', no doubt,
for Zionist/Jewish election funding.
So Dear Americans: The next time you see/hear/read the 'work' of the
Zionist 'journalists', Kristol, Barnes, Krauthammer, Blitzer, Kagan
Zahn, Gaffney, Schneider, Limbaugh, Pipes, Kaplan, Lipsky, Zuckerman,
Goldberg and all the others, be aware that they and their bosses are
Zionists and their purpose is to serve the interests of
Zionism/Israel, AND NOT AMERICA. Take everything they say with a grain
of salt and a pound of critique.
=== =====
Roy Libby
=== =====
Truth and disclosure are a deceiver's greatest fears.
=====================================================
Subj: worldnetdaily spins israeli uss liberty attack
Date: 9/4/02 3:40:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: Jdtmorris
Subj: Re: USS Liberty - Jim Ennes's reply to columnist/commentator Les Kinsolving --
Dear Mr. Kinsolving,
You might want to access the following URL to become enlightened about the treacherous Israeli attack on the USS Liberty as the apparent Zionist-driven truth distortion in your recent article for WorldNetDaily.com was not overlooked by those more familiar (please scroll down after arriving to read the Navy Times article from this past June as I am curious as to why you did not mention it in your piece?):
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/04/zionist-worldnetdaily-com-spins-for-zionist-cristol.php
Subj:USS Liberty - Jim Ennes's reply to columnist/commentator Les Kinsolving --
Jim Ennes's reply to columnist/commentator Les Kinsolving --
Dear Mr. Kinsolving:
Are you aware that even the legal counsel to the US Navy Court of Inquiry
has said publicly that the Court of Inquiry was a sham whose conclusions
were dictated by Washington?
The President of the Court of Inquiry and his legal counsel concluded that
the attack was deliberate but reported falsely that it was a tragic
accident because they were ordered by Washington to report falsely and
"officers follow orders" said the Counsel to the Court.
That report can be found in the July 26 issue of Navy Times and in
follow-up issues.
Washington directed that the Court conclude that the attack was a tragic
accident, despite the fact that the Court determined that it was
deliberate. So the Court of Inquiry was a sham.
Of the ten US investigations which you cite, only the fraudulent US Navy
Court of Inquiry bothered to interview survivors. The others either did
not look into deliberateness at all -- examining peripheral issues such as
the adequacy of communications and of command and control -- or were merely
reports to their bosses which summarized the results of the fraudulent
Court of Inquiry Report. So nine of those ten investigations were poisoned
fruit of the poisoned tree, which was the first investigation.
While Judge Cristol has found a few senior officers willing to sign on --
no doubt blindly -- to his opinions, the fact is that the most
knowledgeable senior officers who were most directly involved are on record
saying that the attack was deliberate.
These include former Secretary of State Dean Rusk, former JCS Chairman and
CNO Admiral Tom Moorer, former NSA director General Marshall Carter, former
NSA director Richard Helms, former NSA/CIA director Admiral Bobby Inman,
former NSA Deputy Lou Tordella and many others whose positions made them
privy to facts unknown to the general public or to the less aware senior
officers who have spoken out in support of Judge Cristol's warped
thesis. Admiral McCain's own legal counsel refused to endorse the Court of
Inquiry report when it was first written in 1967. He has joined Admiral
Moorer and a number of other senior officers calling for an investigation
of the attack and its cover-up. Even Clark Clifford, who was instrumental
in helping found the Israeli state and who has always been one of its
strongest supporters, regards the attack as deliberate.
There is a wealth of evidence pointing directly to a deliberate attack,
including numerous reports from intercept operators and analysts who
personally heard or saw transcripts of communications between the attacking
pilots and their headquarters which made abundantly clear the fact that the
pilots and the torpedomen knew they were attacking and killing Americans.
And if all that could be explained, there remains the fact that a large
number of survivors saw the attacking torpedoman machinegun our
firefighters and medical personnel from close range for forty minutes AFTER
examining our clear markings and our American flag from fifty feet
away. As Secretary of State Dean Rusk said so clearly, mistakes involve a
few rounds fired in error; they do not involve prolonged attack that
continues after close-up examination of the target. Only a deliberate
attack can explain the prolonged attempts to sink our life rafts and to
kill medical and firefighting personnel after clearly identifying us from
close range.
I fear you are not open to reexamining your position. These are the facts,
however, and they are widely known.
James Ennes
survivor
For the facts about the USS Liberty, visit:
http://www.ussliberty.com or
http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/
To buy the book go to:
http://www.ussliberty.org/jimsbook.htm
To buy the History Channel's Liberty tape go to:
http://www2.pulsetv.com/st/prodinfo.asp?number=1150&variation=&aitem=1&mitem=1
To view over 100 USS Liberty pictures, visit:
http://www.ussliberty.org/gifs.htm
To hear survivors and top US officials discuss
the attack in their own voices in RealAudio, visit:
http://www.ussliberty.org/voices.htm
To sign our petition go to:
http://www.petitiononline.com/liberty/petition.html
The Cristol dissertation reviewed by Dr. John Borne:
http://www.logogo.net/Cristoldissertation.htm
Remember the USS Liberty (AGTR-5)
Please keep in mind that WorldNetDaily.com is published by Joe Farah who is an ardent Zionist (or Zionist lackey at least), so the following would apparently apply to World Net Daily as well (so it comes as no surprise that Mr. Kinsolving would support the Zionist load of baloney that the treacherous Israeli USS Liberty attack was a case of "friendly fire" which is supported by Judge Jay A. Cristol who also happens to be a Zionist Jew and has no
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